How many Hall of Fame tables remaining?

Richard B · Feb 17, 2013

They are getting low on HOF re-releases. How many are left? So far, I count:

Williams
WW - confirmed (?)
SS - confirmed
PB - confirmed (?)
Sorcerer - unconfirmed but unfortunately still a possibility
Jive Time - not happening

Gottlieb
Victory - confirmed
Central Park - unconfirmed but strong possibility (unfortunately)
Ace High - unconfirmed and doubtful
Goin' Nuts - unconfirmed, decent addition, though the low production numbers could be problematic
Teed Off - unconfirmed, and emulation difficulties will probably prevent this, or any other Gottlieb DMD, from ever being released
El Dorado - unconfirmed, but probably the most likely of the remaining unconfirmed tables to make it to TPA. They can either do the SS version that appeared in PHOFG, or they could do one (or more) of the three (four if you count Canada Dry) EM tables made with this layout.
Playboy - unconfirmed and stupid to release this, as it isn't really a pinball (and don't even bother mentioning Zoltar and Love Machine).
Strikes 'N Spares - Another non-pinball that would be a stupid release. It was confirmed a while back, but has since been taken off the list. Why was it on the list to begin with? Did FS purchase one? Might it show up again some day? Don't rule it out, no matter how nonsensical it seems.

Did I miss any? Are the statuses up to date? If so, that leaves between 4 and 11 releases left, depending on what the final decisions of the remaining unconfirmed tables turns out to be.

Fungi · Feb 17, 2013

Strikes 'n Spares. Also not pinball, but at least it uses flippers.

grashopper · Feb 17, 2013

Wasn't El Dorado in some Gottlieb collection versions?

Richard B · Feb 17, 2013

grashopper said:
Wasn't El Dorado in some Gottlieb collection versions?

Yes, it was in all of them. I've updated to include it, as well as Strikes 'N Spares.

grashopper · Feb 17, 2013

Richard B said:
Yes, it was in all of them. I've updated to include it, as well as Strikes 'N Spares.

Not mine sadly. I have a North America ps2 one. I don't have Strikes, ED, or nuts.

SKILL_SHOT · Feb 18, 2013

There on PSP. Maybe enter a code for them? I dont remember if I had them or not for PS2..

Richard B · Feb 18, 2013

SKILL_SHOT said:
There on PSP. Maybe enter a code for them? I dont remember if I had them or not for PS2..

The first PS2 release was missing some tables. The PSP and GC versions came out later, and included the extra tables. The PS2 versions released subsequent to these new releases also had all the tables.

Bass Mummy · Feb 18, 2013

By my count the following have been confirmed:

Williams:
Space Shuttle
Whirlwind
Pin*Bot

Gottlieb:
Victory

I wouldn't mind seeing a few other of the Gottlieb Collection (or Sorcerer, for that matter) but I've really taken a shine to older tables lately. I love how merciless they are.

Bowflex · Feb 19, 2013

As much as people hate Sorcerer, it is way more fun than most everything in the Gottlieb collection, not to mention most of the SS Gottlieb tables that weren't produced. Heck, it even beats some of the newer Stern tables.

Sean DonCarlos · Feb 19, 2013

Bowflex said:
As much as people hate Sorcerer, it is way more fun than most everything in the Gottlieb collection, not to mention most of the SS Gottlieb tables that weren't produced. Heck, it even beats some of the newer Stern tables.

Finally, someone who agrees with me on Sorcerer! (Although I'm not sure I'd go so far to call it better than new Sterns; I'm pretty fond of AC/DC and Spiderman.)

Jeff Strong · Feb 19, 2013

I agree that Sorcerer is a gem.

Bowflex · Feb 19, 2013

Sean DonCarlos said:
Finally, someone who agrees with me on Sorcerer! (Although I'm not sure I'd go so far to call it better than new Sterns; I'm pretty fond of AC/DC and Spiderman.)

Go find the Rolling Stones table. You'll see that Sorcerer is way better! Not saying all Sterns by any means. AC/DC and Spider-man are both great and there are quite a few others I enjoy. X-Men is also pretty awful.

Sean DonCarlos · Feb 19, 2013

Bowflex said:
Go find the Rolling Stones table. You'll see that Sorcerer is way better! Not saying all Sterns by any means. AC/DC and Spider-man are both great and there are quite a few others I enjoy. X-Men is also pretty awful.

Rolling Stones is perma-banned from my mind; I don't even consider its existence when thinking of modern Sterns.

I don't care much for X-Men either, although the new code (V1.23) fixes my biggest gripe with the table: It used to be that when you entered a mode you were locked into it; everything else on the table shut down until the mode was finished. Now you can at least stack some modes.

Butterkins · Feb 19, 2013

Also a fan of Sorcerer. I don't understand the dislike for it.

As for recent Stern games, they're mostly awful. The artwork is a mishmash of photoshopped images, the build quality is iffy, the over-use of voice samples puts Zen Pinball to shame, and the choice of licenses is dubious. The coloured rails make the tables look like toys. (Very, very expensive toys.)

And the use of LEDs is over-the-top, and eye-searing.

They look cheap.

dtown8532 · Feb 19, 2013

I can say that I do miss my Sorcerer a bit. Beautiful artwork and brutally fast gameplay. Wouldn't mind seeing it in TPA.

pseudokings · Feb 19, 2013

I hope Sorcerer gets included in TPA. For it's era it's great and it's one of the 10-20 best looking tables of all time. Don't let it have blurry low-res textures if/when it gets remade, FS!

gooche77 · Apr 10, 2013

Richard B said:
Gottlieb
Central Park - unconfirmed but strong possibility (unfortunately)
Teed Off - unconfirmed, and emulation difficulties will probably prevent this, or any other Gottlieb DMD, from ever being released

Time to update.

El Dorado and Tee'd Off look fun. The Squirrel game I could do without. Would FS ever release a table they don't physically scan?

Kolchak357 · Oct 14, 2013

I assume we will be seeing El Dorado in the not so distant future. I also believe it will be the El Dorado City of Gold version that appeared in PHOF Gottlieb Collection. (link to pic below)
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=767&picno=42494&zoom=2
Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I find this version to be the most hideous artwise. Playfield is so cluttered and busy it just looks awful IMO. Also hard at times to follow the ball.

I would much prefer any of the other versions such as Target Alpha. (link to pick below)
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2500&picno=10501
So much easier on the eyes.

They are both 4 player versions and they made over seven times more Target Alphas than City of Golds. I understand they probably want City of Gold because it was used in PHOF and being an SS machine from 1984 can most likely be ROM emulated. Here is my crazy idea...Is there anyway to use the ROM emulation from City of Gold with the beautiful art from Target Alpha? Can the magic that is FarSight make something like this happen? I'm almost certain the answer is no, but I'm still going to wish it to be so.

LanceBoyle · Oct 15, 2013

I doubt it since it'd go against the "as it left the factory" rule imposed by the manufacturers.

Jeff Strong · Oct 15, 2013

I hear ya Kolchak. The original El Dorado would be preferable, which is actually the version they currently have at the PHOF in Vegas:

http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=766&picno=25407

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