High-quality Soundtracks using Original Sound Data (Marcel Gonzales)

jaredmorgs · Nov 4, 2013

Putting these here for great, great, justice.

http://www.cgmusic.net/archives.html

and

http://gamearchive.askey.org/Pinball/Audio_Files/ (For The Machine, Rollergames, and Black Rose tracks missing from cgmusic)

MP3 Tagged Album of all the tracks: https://copy.com/iZNngRHKCgHn (ready to download to your music library. Consistent tags. Album Art. Attribution to the original sites)

Marcel Gonzales, the original creator of these remastered and remixed tracks, is no longer doing this work. It's a real shame.

http://www.cgmusic.net/archives.html goes into a little bit of technical detail about how these recordings were made. Do a search for his user name on google and you'll see a post back in 2001 with more detail about how he achieved this brilliance.

Captain B. Zarre · Nov 4, 2013

Party Zone's in here? Awesome!

Jeff Strong · Nov 4, 2013

Nice!

jaredmorgs · Nov 5, 2013

I've updated the OP with a copy.com share of the album.

https://copy.com/EJHMTbrAq8Ez

I tagged all the tracks with EasyTag and added album art and metadata about the tracks. The tracks are ready for adding into your favourite music player or cloud music service.

superballs · Nov 5, 2013

I think they might have re-recorded the sounds for the PC version. I haven't really scrutinized it but it sounds a bit crisper with less clipping than on the mobile platforms.

Not sure if this is in regards to that at all.

jaredmorgs · Nov 5, 2013

superballs said:
I think they might have re-recorded the sounds for the PC version. I haven't really scrutinized it but it sounds a bit crisper with less clipping than on the mobile platforms.

Not sure if this is in regards to that at all.

Unrelated.

Pinballwiz45b · Nov 5, 2013

Here's a better website for WH2O tracks: http://www.cgmusic.net/archives.html

jaredmorgs · Nov 5, 2013

Pinballwiz45b said:
Here's a better website for WH2O tracks: http://www.cgmusic.net/archives.html

That's the site I was originally looking for.

jaredmorgs · Nov 5, 2013

jaredmorgs said:
That's the site I was originally looking for.

That site will also not play on my fedora laptop, or Android tablet. Flash dependencies suck. Will have to try on a Windows pc at some stage.

Worf · Nov 5, 2013

jaredmorgs said:
That site will also not play on my fedora laptop, or Android tablet. Flash dependencies suck. Will have to try on a Windows pc at some stage.

Chrome should work. It's the only browser that supports Flash on Linux.

jaredmorgs · Nov 5, 2013

Worf said:
Chrome should work. It's the only browser that supports Flash on Linux.

Chrome tries to load VLC to play the audio files. And that doesn't work at all. This site actually requires flash to work.

Anyone able to download the audio streams?

netizen · Nov 5, 2013

jaredmorgs said:
Chrome tries to load VLC to play the audio files. And that doesn't work at all. This site actually requires flash to work.

Anyone able to download the audio streams?

Replace the m3u with mp3 and you can dl directly

http://www.cgmusic.net/archives/[filename].mp3

jaredmorgs · Nov 5, 2013

Nice tip. I'm now using wget to get them.

sellenoff · Nov 6, 2013

superballs said:
I think they might have re-recorded the sounds for the PC version. I haven't really scrutinized it but it sounds a bit crisper with less clipping than on the mobile platforms.

Not sure if this is in regards to that at all.

It's likely the fact that it's not compressed for mobile devices. The original recorded audio was @ 44.1K IIRC and then down sampled to 11.25K for mobile and then (possibly?) further compressed when packed into the game resource. ( I recall seeing an ADPCM tag for the mobile resource packager ).

Mike could comment better about it.

But for sure, they didn't re-record it.

jaredmorgs · Nov 6, 2013

With the combined resources from http://gamearchive.askey.org/Pinball/Audio_Files/ and http://www.cgmusic.net/archives.html, the total track count is 90 individual tracks! Marcel Gonzales is a legend.

There are The Machine, Rollergames, and Black Rose tracks not present on the cgmusic site that feature on the gamearchive site.

I will update the OP with a link to a revised Copy.com link to all 90 tracks.

jaredmorgs · Nov 6, 2013

sellenoff said:
It's likely the fact that it's not compressed for mobile devices. The original recorded audio was @ 44.1K IIRC and then down sampled to 11.25K for mobile and then (possibly?) further compressed when packed into the game resource. ( I recall seeing an ADPCM tag for the mobile resource packager ).

Mike could comment better about it.

But for sure, they didn't re-record it.

Is there a technical reason why the audio is so heavily compressed on Android and iOS? I'd love to hear the audio at 22.1Khz (at a minimum) on mobile, but I'm not sure if older devices could handle the extra RAM required to cache the streamed sounds.

I know Ryan has had all sorts of issues with the Farsight audio mixer on Android. http://digitalpinballfans.com/showt...-the-Mechanical-Sound-Effect-Delay-in-Android documents the current status.

Also, for those interested about ADPCM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_differential_pulse-code_modulation

netizen · Nov 6, 2013

sellenoff said:
It's likely the fact that it's not compressed for mobile devices. The original recorded audio was @ 44.1K IIRC and then down sampled to 11.25K for mobile and then (possibly?) further compressed when packed into the game resource. ( I recall seeing an ADPCM tag for the mobile resource packager ).

Mike could comment better about it.

But for sure, they didn't re-record it.

Not something I expect you specifically to answer sellenoff:
If the audio is being compressed, and mixed down to a single channel for mobile couldn't there be some additional audio pre-production being done? Things like removing as much of the overlapping frequencies as possible to allow for the samples to play cleaner/clearer with limited artifacting etc, and pre compression and limiting before the actual mp3/ogg compression and change in the sample rate. With the right application of multi-band compressors and eq work ahead of time, knowing what the compression algorithims will do to the audio file there can be attempts made to get the best possible product.

Admittedly this is where it gets into that esoteric aural ground, like the Apple AAC mastering for iPod sort of discussion that is beginning to happen more and more.

spoonman · Nov 6, 2013

Nice. Thanks for sharing.

Why are they named .m3u? It's no biggie as I can save and rename to mp3, but wouldn't it make sense so it can stream on most every browser?

jaredmorgs · Nov 6, 2013

spoonman said:
Nice. Thanks for sharing.

Why are they named .m3u? It's no biggie as I can save and rename to mp3, but wouldn't it make sense so it can stream on most every browser?

I was wondering that as well. Still don't know why...

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