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    Quote Originally Posted by thefly0810 View Post
    I missed out on the last 2 newsletters for some reason. Maybe I have to resubscribe somewhere. Anyways, I cannot wait for 3/20 to play Sorcerer again. Thanks Farsight.
    Maybe one of the Mods, that get the newsletter early, can make a thread that is stickied to the top of the forum in General Games Discussion with a copy of the newsletter???

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    Hopefully now that there are no monthly tables they can really hammer the master bugs list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drathro View Post
    Hopefully now that there are no monthly tables they can really hammer the master bugs list.
    LOL

    You're a funny guy.

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    So, a late February - early March psych release has come and gone pretty much. I just saw now that the newsletter is saying 3/20 supposedly? Though, I can't remember the last time ANYTHING in the newsletter that pertained to consoles was correct and actually did or came out as announced...

    I know Tom stated is being delayed... This is the same BS just a different day, week, month, year... I'm not trying to jump on Tom either, I'm just pointing this out as why some or a lot of us get upset... We're tired of dealing with this same crap...

    Once again consoles are behind again, luckily not by a lot, but still behind... Numerous issues on the PS4 still... And I'm just talking about the stuff that broke since the last patch, not any of the existing things prior...

    I just really hope something comes out and fixes a lot of these issues, so we can actually play and enjoy our product that we paid for and in some of our cases, paid multiple times for on different platforms... In a way i kind of don't even care about the latest tables, i would much rather have the issues resolved than new tables at this point....

    Another thing i just wanted to mention and point out... I was watching some older videos on YT, the guys name is Croooow or something like that, he has multiple O's in it, but anyways, I was watching his much older Pinball videos when PBA was called The Williams Collection Pinball Hall of Fame or something like that and i believe he was playing them on the 360 and THOSE tables were looking MUCH MUCH better than the PS4, even now currently with the new light adjustments...

    That is kind of what I've been trying to explain with how the lighting has been off, as in not right, for current gen systems... It's like the developers got all these new tools and more power and memory to play with and make some adjustments compared to last gen consoles and didn't really know what they were doing, tweaking, adjusting, etc...

    Almost like if they got this new lighting and shadow feature/tool and wait way over board with it and thinking that's how they're supposed to look in real life or something?

    The thing is, you can see how bright, vibrant, colorful the tables are and the lights or i guess you could say the glare/flash and or blurry-ness of the flashing lights don't get in the way or make it seem like a cheap lighting effect... That's how i always saw the lights or bulbs on some of the tables, especially if you compare Frank Thomas Grand Slam on the PS4 vs the PC version... There is a huge difference in how the red, blue, and clear/white lights look... They look correct and real on the PC version and on the PS4 it looks like some cheap imitation or genetic brand, that's why i say and think the PS4 and XB1 versions are nothing more than a cheap port...

    But back to the older videos and just how amazing they were looking compared to now... Granted, some of it has to do with it being with another company before Farsight got a hold of it? Also maybe cause the lighting and shadows/ shading wasn't as complex or advanced on those systems then they are now.... Etc...

    I'm sorry and I really do hate always bringing this up, but i do so because we never really got a straight answer on why the lighting, etc is drastically different and why it's worse on consoles versus the PC and even the mobile versions of the game....

    I also point it out and try to have examples as in this case if Tom or anyone else wants to look up those older videos on Crooows channel on YouTube to see how they looked back turn compared to now... Also because its so hard to explain how the lighting just doesn't look right...

    Yes, the adjustments to the lighting recently DID improve on a lot compared to how it was for over a year now, but it still needs some adjusting and tweaking... Also some tables are different, i think it was mentioned why the older tables didn't really benefit from the adjustment or patch because the graphics or something and how they were done for the older tables??

    I know the PS4 and even XB1 can handle and show much better lighting adjustments and just the graphics overall on current consoles to just about how they look on PCs, even more so than mobile devices as those sometimes look better on there than PS4....

    I know I'm not alone in that we just want our game that we love so much to look the best it can... We also don't want it to be forgotten about just because there had been some satisfactory adjustments to the lighting as there is still a lot to be done and a long way to go until it's looking closer to the PC versions and or even the advertised screen shots as many have pointed out...

    I and I'm sure most others as well would much prefer that Farsight take a break in releasing newer tables, across ALL platforms and just go back and work on a whole new version of the game, kind of like how Zen came out with Pinball FX3... Plus go back to the existing tables, all the way to season 1 tables and fix a lot of the bugs and issues that a lot of the older original tables still have...

    I would even be down for a complete re-work of the console versions... Build it from scratch using the correct tools etc for each system instead of porting over a version or doing a port and then trying to tweak the port.... That's what i think got the current gen console versions looking so bland and ugly versus other platforms is because its a port and people tried tweaking the port in trying to make it look better and over relying on the lighting tools and making way to many adjustments...


    It might be a pipe dream for all that, but it would be nice and it would show that Farsight actually cares about console users and it would show they are trying to make things up... Yes Farsight over catered to the PC and Mobile versions of the game, but there is time to make things right.... If i recall correctly, consoles is what made Pinball Arcade popular and consoles is where it started, yeah it might of made a littler more and or easier on pc and mobile platforms, but it was console users that have been there since the beginning....

    So that's all, haven't played in awhile due to the issues, plus i got really sick for awhile... But I've been checking each week for a patch and nothing and finally came here to check.... So hopefully it comes this week....

    And please take a look at how it used to look versus to how it looks now... Speaking of that, if you try to compare Crooows videos, the older ones to his newer ones, then don't because the newer ones he has for pinball arcade is the PC version... But his older Williams Collection videos are from 360, he had some from PS4 when it first came out, but switched because of all the delays, etc....

    Thanks for your time,...

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    So it's the 20th.... Any patch yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrolson View Post
    So it's the 20th.... Any patch yet?
    I've deployed the patches, so within 30 minutes to an hour they should all be up!

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    Nothing yet in USA, but it's still relatively early in the day.

    EDIT: I got ninja'd. LOL

    2nd EDIT: Patch now live in USA.
    Last edited by Rayder; 03-20-2018 at 08:02 AM.

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    So it looks like they published really fast, so they should be out there ready to download. Tell me how everything is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Devaney View Post
    So it looks like they published really fast, so they should be out there ready to download. Tell me how everything is.
    Checking it out now Tom!!! Thanks a lot for the work on it. Looking forward to retesting all the tables.

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    I installed the update and it seems ok so far... Sorcerer works (completed standard goals with no issues), my previous purchases, goal progress, and trophy progress are all intact, and each table's music now plays properly on the menu. Haven't tried any other tables yet but no immediate explosions like some of the other recent patches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Devaney View Post
    So it looks like they published really fast, so they should be out there ready to download. Tell me how everything is.
    Everything is stable, but that audio bug is really bad in Sorcerer.

    All the sounds are sped up and it's giving me a headache. Can someone at Farsight please fix that annoying sound bug, that's been plaguing the PS4 version of the game for 4 years now?
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    On Wipeout, hitting the upper slingshot still doesn't light bumpers to increase dog bonus.

    Everything else looks fine so far.

    Edit: I agree that the sound cutting off bug effects Sorcerer badly during the bonus countdown, multi ball activation and during a few other instances.
    Last edited by Gorgar; 03-20-2018 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgar View Post
    On Wipeout, hitting the upper slingshot still doesn't light bumpers to increase dog bonus.

    Everything else looks fine so far.
    I fixed that a couple weeks ago. I seen you mention it a few times, but I was waiting for the new patch announcement to tell everyone.

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    Ghostbusters room lighting is still too bright, even at zero percent. Game is perfectly playable, but I like to set the lighting to be like the old arcades were decades ago....which is to say pretty dark.

    Other than a brief play of GB and and the new Sorcerer table, I won't really be able to dig into TPA until the weekend.

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    Loving this patch! Now I need to scavenge up some money to get the rest of the seasons.

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    The PS4 friends leaderboard still displays "Me" instead of your own PSN-ID.
    You're welcome to join my facebook pinball club at: www.pspinball.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingCat78 View Post
    The PS4 friends leaderboard still displays "Me" instead of your own PSN-ID.
    It wasn't in the patch notes, so that makes sense. I did it a week or so ago, so it will be coming out in the next patch.

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    Tom, can you please ask the artists to remove the playfield texture swap from Sorcerer. The entire playfield goes dark when the GI turns off.

    EDIT : Also, raising the room brightness on TX-Sector barely brightens up the playfield after the table was updated on the PS4.
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    Nitpicking, but is the main menu "music" on sorcerer correct? It is a constant loop of a short sound effect that appears to be the same sound effect that plays when you select the table. The sound effect chosen is really annoying, and that is coming by from someone that likes the sounds of Goin Nuts, El Dorado City of Gold and Space Shuttle (I actually love the spce ****tle sounds)

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    Noticed a couple graphical issues.

    World Champion Soccer
    Insert table bulbs when lighted up don't show through the transparent plastic ramps.

    Attack from Mars
    When a saucer is defeated and starts to shake, a square cutout can be seen in the middle of it. (Camera 2)
    When the saucer gate is down, there's like a shadow above it that a glow ball will travel under instead of over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrolson View Post
    World Champion Soccer
    Insert table bulbs when lighted up don't show through the transparent plastic ramps.
    Don't think there's any possible fix for this without an engine rewrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarSight_Matt View Post
    Don't think there's any possible fix for this without an engine rewrite.
    Isn't that just a draw order issue with the tranparent ramps or is it more complicated than that?
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    Noticed some of my local high scores were wiped but other than that a pretty good patch. The Sorcerer menu music is annoying though.
    Last edited by gameaddict4life; 03-21-2018 at 03:21 PM.
    It's all good.

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    Something I've always wondered.....does the fast repeating sounds that chop-up on many of the tables do that on the dev units too, or does it only occur on home PS4's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiN WiZ View Post
    Isn't that just a draw order issue with the tranparent ramps or is it more complicated than that?
    Yeah, but the draw order isn't easily changed.

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