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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzFNylQanRQ
    Hmm, ATgames partners with Taito for licences to use in new pinball games but doesn't say in that video who is making the tables. Could Farsight have been contracted for this?? It looks suspiciously like its either that, or a company new to making pinball games like ATgames hiring people and making them themselves which seems less likely if they haven't started to make new video games themselves already.

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    What gonna we lose next, patch for pinball arcade Steam scheduled at 14th of october 3am UTC+2

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbers View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzFNylQanRQ
    Hmm, ATgames partners with Taito for licences to use in new pinball games but doesn't say in that video who is making the tables. Could Farsight have been contracted for this?? It looks suspiciously like its either that, or a company new to making pinball games like ATgames hiring people and making them themselves which seems less likely if they haven't started to make new video games themselves already.
    Chris and I saw this press release as well.

    We have some ideas, none of which are official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaredmorgs View Post
    Chris and I saw this press release as well.

    We have some ideas, none of which are official.
    Sounds like a podcast!!


    or a small part of one?

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    It does, doesn’t it? We’re gonna wait a bit though for more info. After writing off FarSight for dead with regards to pinball, we need to see if they are indeed involved with this. Our behind the scenes speculation turned quickly rather hostile toward the possible software, which would be rather unfair and only further make us look like Zen homers than we already do. But yes, at some point it’ll be a podcast segment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    It does, doesn’t it? We’re gonna wait a bit though for more info. After writing off FarSight for dead with regards to pinball, we need to see if they are indeed involved with this. Our behind the scenes speculation turned quickly rather hostile toward the possible software, which would be rather unfair and only further make us look like Zen homers than we already do. But yes, at some point it’ll be a podcast segment.
    AtGames has been working on this for a while. They secured the Taito (a wholly owned subsidiary of Square Enix) retro property license at the end of last year and structured the deal to use the old video game IP in things beyond just legally selling emulated games in the Blast, etc. From what I've heard, the upcoming AtGames Legend Pinball System will come with 22 Taito Licensed original tables. Here are the specs of the cabinet which is considerably bigger than the Toyshock and Arcade1Up cabinets.


    Maybe we will get reskins of real tables, you know, like what Taito (in Brazil) did back in the 70s/80s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taito_of_Brazil

    And for those that were not aware, or may have forgotten, AtGames and Farsight signed a developmental partnership earlier this year. https://www.newswire.com/news/atgame...tegic-21159727
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    I thought Legends Pinball was coming with 22 Gottlieb tables from FarSight. I do have a very sneaky suspicion the Taito tables using their licenses of popular vid games, if FarSight is making them, will be nothing more than reskins of Bally and Williams machines. This is how they’ll get around the loss of license while still being able to utilize past assets. From there I go much more cynical, which is why I’ll wait for concrete news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    I thought Legends Pinball was coming with 22 Gottlieb tables from FarSight. I do have a very sneaky suspicion the Taito tables using their licenses of popular vid games, if FarSight is making them, will be nothing more than reskins of Bally and Williams machines. This is how they’ll get around the loss of license while still being able to utilize past assets. From there I go much more cynical, which is why I’ll wait for concrete news.
    You are probably correct about those 22 licensed tables being Gottlieb tables and I got my information crossed up. We did get to see Farsight reskin Haunted House already (Ghostbusters) and we also got a peek at their table design skills with Doctor Who:MoT, so you can count me in the cynical camp as well.

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    Changes to ATGames before release. Better shape cabinet, lockdown bar, coin door, etc.


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    ^^It does not look like it is running at a stable 60 fps, looks like the frame rate is all over the place, so i don't know if that is the cabinet or the capture device, the phone or YT.
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    I like the Farsight simulation. I used to get mad at them, because the UI looks horrible, but you know what, I value them a lot now. I bought all the tables before they were retired, spent some good money on it and I don't regret it. The physics are really good even today, not as good as in the Zen Pinball simulation, but if you stay away from Zen from a while, you get used really quick. It is just bad when you directly compare them, so staying away from Zen helps a lot.

    I hope this company can keep their activities, they made history in pinball simulation and show true love and passion for it. My relation with them goes back to the Nintendo Wii time, when I played their game for that system, and I lost the count of how many great hours and moments I had with it. I had a stressfull job back then, a very tiring one, and family situation was bad too with lots of internal fights and bad moments, it was a small window of happiness and relief to turn on the game on my Wii and play Firepower or Space Shuttle (my favorite tables back them). It was so relaxing, just letting the ball roll, maybe a bit of a beer, and there you go. It made me forget all my problems for a while.

    So yeah, I hope they keep around somehow, their products are really good (except the UI, but Zen Pinball's UI is not that good either btw). I love how they have detailed instruction for each table, something Zen never did. I first thought I did a bad thing buying all the tables, but after the initial excitement about the Zen recreations, I see myself coming back to the Farsight game more than I thought I would. Big secret, as I said before, is to not play both at a short distance in time (just wait a few days or weeks), the direct comparison makes the Farsight ball feels too "floaty", but when you just play Farsight, it doesn't feel that way because you have nothing to compare to. So it is still a great game and many of the tables are not present (and many probably will never) in Zen Williams collection, so I'm pretty satisfied with it. Forums and rankings are still working btw, as far I'm concerned, so that's a great thing.
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    Well, chances are slim that they will stay around for long. It's great that they have managed to publish so many tables even if the quality is inferior compared to ZEN, not to forget about the STERN tables. I have to agree that when you just play Pinball Arcade then you adjust to their physics pretty fast. It's only when you play some real pinball or the ZEN tables that their weaknesses become obvious.

    It's funny that you mention the Wii. It was a quantum jump from the Williams Pinball Hall of Fame to the Pinball Arcade but yeah, you can always have a great time.

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    A hint of a change - delisting, some tables removed? Seems the Indie Gamer Chick knows something the rest of us don't.
    https://twitter.com/IndieGamerChick/...46151710011394

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    ..and as it specifically mentions Stern it does imply that Stern (or less likely, even Farsight themselves if the cost of doing so is higher than the residual sales they are still making) may not have renewed that license and that it will run out over the summer. A strong possibility anyway.

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