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    Zen Pinball FX3 Williams Pinball Volume One

    Zen Studios has announced today that they have the worldwide digital rights to Bally and Williams digital tables.

    Read the Article written by @Xanija in the Articles section to get you primed: http://www.digitalpinballfans.com/co...-available-NOW!

    Listen to the BlahCade Digital Pinball Podcast Episode 147 for a deep dive into what to expect, with a colossal medium post for the episode: http://blahcadepinball.com/147-zen-studios-wms-license

    Steam users have access to a worldwide beta of Williams Pinball: details in the podcast link above.

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    The gameplay and graphics are top notch. As someone who never really cared for Zen’s other pinball titles because the physics didn’t feel like real pinball, I’m blown away by the demo!

    Kudos to Zen for staying faithful to a realistic simulation experience. This is the best thing to happen to digital pinball in a long time!
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    Excellent news indeed! Just opt'd into the Beta

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    Just heard about it as well.


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    Demo'ed it right now.

    BLOWN. AWAY.

    THEY GOT JUNK YARD'S MUSIC RIGHT!

    Physics are fantastic. Light shows could be better, but great as they are currently and hoping for more lighting options.

    Backglass view, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinballwiz45b View Post
    Demo'ed it right now.

    BLOWN. AWAY.
    I knew you’d be happy!

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    Just a warning, if you opt in for the demo it nukes your existing FX3 tables so you can't run the beta with your existing tables.. That being said, the tables looks great and the from what I see they play "right". Never thought Zen would jump into the recreations but I am very glad they did.

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    As a fan of digital pinball i am THRILLED to be getting these tables again. between zen and farsight it should be the perfect mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinballwiz45b View Post
    Demo'ed it right now.

    BLOWN. AWAY.

    THEY GOT JUNK YARD'S MUSIC RIGHT!

    Physics are fantastic. Light shows could be better, but great as they are currently and hoping for more lighting options.

    Backglass view, too!
    Look at how the lights interact with surrounding environment. The throw is much greater than TPA, you can actually see it reflect off toys or the side walls of the cabinet. The lit inserts are never blown out and you can still read the text on them, which has been something I've complained about for years. Also, no more spot light hitting the middle of the playfield from some unnamed light source!

    Quote Originally Posted by GAH1068 View Post
    Just a warning, if you opt in for the demo it nukes your existing FX3 tables so you can't run the beta with your existing tables.. That being said, the tables looks great and the from what I see they play "right". Never thought Zen would jump into the recreations but I am very glad they did.
    When people were wondering what would happen with the license, a lot immediately dismissed Zen as an option saying that about them and recreations, but also the physics being an issue. Yeah, check mate!
    I'm just sayin'

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    Hly shiite! I guess I'm gonna hafta update my PC afterall. FX3 runs choppy on my rig.

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    Wait, what?
    This is interesting especially with how well the Zen interface is with tournaments and such. Looking forward to this, not looking forward to buying all the tables again.
    Wonder how this effects TPA with it's work on bugs and such for those tables if there will be a drop off of people playing more tables on Zen vs TPA.

    Now to get into more of the details, going to tune to that Pinball podcast, what,s the name, ah yes the BlahCade podcast.
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    I've played way more TPA than Zen's products because I like the authentic tables, but I've always admired Zen's production values, polish, and the pace at which they produce new content. I admire FarSight for revealing classic pinball experiences to new audiences, but I can't say I've been impressed with much else about their software.

    I can't wait to get home today and try out this beta -- if it feels right, I feel like this means a much brighter future for digital pinball!

    How do purchases work across different systems in FX3? If I purchase a table on PC, can I play it on Switch or would I have to repurchase it per console?

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    There certainly is the question of whether people will want to buy the tables again. All I say is play the demo for 30 seconds and then tell me your answer. Or play Fish Tales for a good bit, then hop over to TPA and try it there again. I think the decision will be fairly easy. Or there's always waiting a while for a Steam winter or summer sale.
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    Had to stay up to get *all the things* live for this little announcement.

    Midnight Madness is upon me. I'll be interested to hear what you all think of the beta in the future morning of Australian Wednesday. :P

    I'm personally blown away by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scendr View Post
    I've played way more TPA than Zen's products because I like the authentic tables, but I've always admired Zen's production values, polish, and the pace at which they produce new content. I admire FarSight for revealing classic pinball experiences to new audiences, but I can't say I've been impressed with much else about their software.

    I can't wait to get home today and try out this beta -- if it feels right, I feel like this means a much brighter future for digital pinball!

    How do purchases work across different systems in FX3? If I purchase a table on PC, can I play it on Switch or would I have to repurchase it per console?
    It's per console ecosystem. So if you buy it on PC, you get it on PC. Not Nintendo. Different company, different app store, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scendr View Post
    I've played way more TPA than Zen's products because I like the authentic tables, but I've always admired Zen's production values, polish, and the pace at which they produce new content. I admire FarSight for revealing classic pinball experiences to new audiences, but I can't say I've been impressed with much else about their software.

    I can't wait to get home today and try out this beta -- if it feels right, I feel like this means a much brighter future for digital pinball!

    How do purchases work across different systems in FX3? If I purchase a table on PC, can I play it on Switch or would I have to repurchase it per console?
    No cross-buy between different systems. Steam for Steam, Switch for Switch, etc. What Zen has done is the most authentic feeling to real pinball I've ever experienced. Have had access to this for 3 weeks, I've put it through its paces. No railroads, the weight of the ball is correct, the rubber is bouncy, the ball has spin, no vacuum ramps or gates, the ball truly feels wild.
    I'm just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaredmorgs View Post
    Had to stay up to get *all the things* live for this little announcement.

    Midnight Madness is upon me. I'll be interested to hear what you all think of the beta in the future morning of Australian Wednesday. :P

    I'm personally blown away by it.
    Appreciate all the work and appreciate the updates. Any word on if it'll support cabinet mode? Happy to buy these gems again but that's my only sticking point currently.

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    I have all the seaons in TPA and even bought the Arcooda license to boot. From just the few minutes I have played the Zen versions I can safely say I will be buying them all again. They really did an incredible job. I am blown away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    No cross-buy between different systems. Steam for Steam, Switch for Switch, etc. What Zen has done is the most authentic feeling to real pinball I've ever experienced. Have had access to this for 3 weeks, I've put it through its paces. No railroads, the weight of the ball is correct, the rubber is bouncy, the ball has spin, no vacuum ramps or gates, the ball truly feels wild.
    You've been sitting on this info for 3 weeks and happily keeping it quiet from us? Impressive.

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    For those playing in portrait mode, make sure you check out the new View 8, which has the DMD at the top middle of the screen.
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    Love this news that the licenses will be used. But supposedly not coming to ios. So I will probably never play it. Does nothing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fungi View Post
    You've been sitting on this info for 3 weeks and happily keeping it quiet from us? Impressive.
    Happily? It's been killing me to not say anything! If you listen to our last few podcasts, you can probably hear it in our voices when we say, "yeah not a whole lot about digital pinball to talk about this week".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolchak357 View Post
    Love this news that the licenses will be used. But supposedly not coming to ios. So I will probably never play it. Does nothing for me.
    Not immediately. They have plans for mobile, just not there yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    Not immediately. They have plans for mobile, just not there yet.
    That would be great. Please let that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomorestalker View Post
    Appreciate all the work and appreciate the updates. Any word on if it'll support cabinet mode? Happy to buy these gems again but that's my only sticking point currently.
    Just did a direct table launch of Fish Tales from PinballX and it is working so certainly looks like they plan to support it still.

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