Zen Pinball FX3 Williams Pinball Volume One

jaredmorgs · Sep 4, 2018

ddb123ddb said:
so help me here i bought all of farsights tables am i now going to have to buy again through zen in order to play tournaments and is game play going to change. I feel like i got played by farsight

Yes you will. Different companies.

shutyertrap · Sep 4, 2018

mystman12 said:
Hey guys, I posted some feedback on my thoughts of the Zen flipper strength here. The Zen forums don't seem very active so I was curious to see if people here understand what I'm saying and I also wanted to make sure I wasn't just spewing nonsense. https://forum.zenstudios.com/showth...-strong-in-smaller-swings&p=102329#post102329

Basically, the issue I noticed is that the flippers seem to jump to full strength in small swings, making post-transfers and other maneuvers requiring small flipper movements borderline impossible.

I get exactly what you mean, and it looks like Zen responded to you as something they are working on.

Johni3w6 · Sep 4, 2018

jaredmorgs said:
Like Zen. You're going to have to be quite gentle on the stick unless you want to tilt. That might be adjustable though.

That's what I'm hoping for because I know the Zen tables don't have much room for error.
Not a big nudger but sometimes it's always nice to have that give to a table.

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mystman12 · Sep 4, 2018

shutyertrap said:
I get exactly what you mean, and it looks like Zen responded to you as something they are working on.

Wow, I wasn't expecting to hear back from them so quick!

Citizen · Sep 4, 2018

Neat. Glad it's coming to Switch too.

What I'm looking forward to the most is a second opportunity to get some of the top WMS requests we never got in TPA.

Johni3w6 · Sep 4, 2018

shutyertrap said:
A warning shot? How firm is that Stern contract, eh?

Hopefully not I wouldn't like to see anybody at FS lose jobs over this.

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Gabura · Sep 4, 2018

Jamman39 said:
Thanks Xanija.

For those that are wondering if Zen/Williams will support cabinet mode, doesn't Zen's FAQ saying that all Williams tables will have all FX3 features included mean cabinet mode will be included?

Cabinet mode is working for me ( DMD + Backglass with no image found message) did a opt out /opt in beta to check is settings were still there in the non beta so could be it carried over then, cant remember is it was working @ first install ( no unlock key was asked for )

shutyertrap · Sep 4, 2018

ddb123ddb said:
so help me here i bought all of farsights tables am i now going to have to buy again through zen in order to play tournaments and is game play going to change. I feel like i got played by farsight

Nobody was playing you. It wasn't like Zen and FarSight were conspiring together to get you to double dip. You have a huge wonderful collection of tables. Now you can choose whether you want to buy them again, as they slowly get released, in a quantity nobody knows. There might be tables that Zen doesn't choose to do that FarSight did. This does not affect anything you can do in TPA. These are simply how the future of all WMS pinball in digital form will be available for purchase. So no conspiracy, and you no need to rush and buy what Zen puts out, just whenever you are ready.

shutyertrap · Sep 4, 2018

Johni3w6 said:
Hopefully not I wouldn't like to see anybody at FS lose jobs over this.

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Me neither. That joke might have had a little too much zing on it. What I'm actually hoping for is that this will cause FarSight to step up their game so we can have a nice "who's doing it better" competition. Kinda like before EA bought the exclusive NFL rights and competing games were driving innovation.

Jeff Strong · Sep 4, 2018

Fungi said:
Ooh! Guess I have a project when I get home! Thanks!

You’re very welcome [MENTION=16]Fungi[/MENTION]! Sounds like I should probably make a tutorial thread for this with a screen shot of the setting that needs changed since it seems to be a fairly common issue.

Pinballwiz45b · Sep 4, 2018

shutyertrap said:
A warning shot? How firm is that Stern contract, eh?

That reminds me. I don't see any of Stern's games on Pinball Arcade's website anymore.

yespage · Sep 4, 2018

shutyertrap said:
There certainly is the question of whether people will want to buy the tables again.

Yup. WMS figured that the best way to make money is to get people to buy their tables twice. Simply put, I'll only consider the best of the best that I like.

Jeff Strong · Sep 4, 2018

yespage said:
Yup. WMS figured that the best way to make money is to get people to buy their tables twice. Simply put, I'll only consider the best of the best that I like.

Did you try the demo? This is a night and day difference from TPA. I honestly could never go back after playing this, so I’ll gladly rebuy everything.

It’s basically like going from VCR tapes straight to Bluray.

Johni3w6 · Sep 4, 2018

shutyertrap said:
Me neither. That joke might have had a little too much zing on it. What I'm actually hoping for is that this will cause FarSight to step up their game so we can have a nice "who's doing it better" competition. Kinda like before EA bought the exclusive NFL rights and competing games were driving innovation.

Sometimes competition is good.
I have a feeling Zen will let this beta stew for awhile and soak up a lot information.

EA seems to bring out just about the same game every year and there's always that one year where I get a little excited and get it and play it for a couple of months and then put it aside.

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blindpeser · Sep 4, 2018

Pinballwiz45b said:
That reminds me. I don't see any of Stern's games on Pinball Arcade's website anymore.

Oh damn, you are right! No Data East as well. I think this is it for TPA. Hopefully Farsignt has other projects and people do not lose their jobs.

shutyertrap · Sep 4, 2018

yespage said:
Yup. WMS figured that the best way to make money is to get people to buy their tables twice. Simply put, I'll only consider the best of the best that I like.

That's one way to look at it. Another is that due to licensing, the tables that would potentially make the most money going forward were never going to happen. Zen has the capability to afford those without need of crowd funding. If anything look at this as upgrading from the DVD version to the Blu-Ray or even the 4K version. Same content, improved presentation. I've double and triple dipped on so many movies, from Laserdisc to DVD to Blu-Ray, and each time the herd thins with what I'll get. But there are certain titles I will re-buy every single time because I want it as good looking as it can be. Same can be said for what Zen is offering. They bought the library, now they choose what remaster.

Johni3w6 · Sep 4, 2018

That is weird. Currently looking at their website it's all Gottlieb and Alvin and G and of course their release of DWMoT.

Pinballwiz45b said:
That reminds me. I don't see any of Stern's games on Pinball Arcade's website anymore.

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Heretic · Sep 4, 2018

Jeff Strong said:
You’re very welcome [MENTION=16]Fungi[/MENTION]! Sounds like I should probably make a tutorial thread for this with a screen shot of the setting that needs changed since it seems to be a fairly common issue.

Buy me a laptop, 8m rocking a hd4000

Citizen · Sep 4, 2018

I really hope FarSight isn't losing Stern/Sega/DE to Zen too.

Mainly because I don't want that stuff clogging up Zen's new WMS output.

Jeff Strong · Sep 4, 2018

Heretic said:
Buy me a laptop, 8m rocking a hd4000

The pool shed still has a spare hammock

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