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    It does appear there's now a hard cap on parts, hurrah! I should be able to max out the remaining tables relatively quickly and can hopefully start mining coins instead.

    Some of the target scores have indeed changed but here's really the great news... Safe Cracker 1-ball is now a thing (Easy = 240,000)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBeeching View Post
    It does appear there's now a hard cap on parts, hurrah! I should be able to max out the remaining tables relatively quickly and can hopefully start mining coins instead.

    Some of the target scores have indeed changed but here's really the great news... Safe Cracker 1-ball is now a thing (Easy = 240,000)
    Oh good! Hard cap doesn’t solve all, but it certainly is the first step that was needed.

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    I have been in a mad Zen Coin collecting rush. Having all the tables maxed out is a great way to horde coins in preparation for the next pack. I have Zen coins and tickets to unlock volume 4 once I collect all the
    parts. In the mean time I am going to continue to grind the challenges for Zen Coins. I am glad they did not change anything with the latest release in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAH1068 View Post
    I have been in a mad Zen Coin collecting rush. Having all the tables maxed out is a great way to horde coins in preparation for the next pack. I have Zen coins and tickets to unlock volume 4 once I collect all the
    parts. In the mean time I am going to continue to grind the challenges for Zen Coins. I am glad they did not change anything with the latest release in that regard.
    Yep! I’m trying for at least 400 coins in reserve by May 28th. I’m at 350 right now.

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    431 and counting. I have been shooting for at least 15-20 a day.

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    I was on a similar pace until this week...I did a 7 day free trial of HBO so I could catch up on GoT and watch the finale (normally I just waited to buy on disc but there’s no way I’d avoid spoilers that long) and have just been binging that and other shows while I have it! Will be back on track come Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    I was on a similar pace until this week...I did a 7 day free trial of HBO so I could catch up on GoT and watch the finale (normally I just waited to buy on disc but there’s no way I’d avoid spoilers that long) and have just been binging that and other shows while I have it! Will be back on track come Monday.


    I did the same. Added HBONow just so I could watch the last season and then just binged watched Seasons 1-3 of Deadwood in prep for the Movie launch. Forgot how much I loved that show. What a shame they cancelled it and left it
    like that at end of seasons 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAH1068 View Post


    I did the same. Added HBONow just so I could watch the last season and then just binged watched Seasons 1-3 of Deadwood in prep for the Movie launch. Forgot how much I loved that show. What a shame they cancelled it and left it
    like that at end of seasons 3.
    I actually got to work a few days on first season of Deadwood. Really was a good show.
    I'm just sayin'

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    Never watched Deadwood when it was on Sky, I take it that even with whatever happens at the end of season 3 its worth watching if I ever get through the backlog of everything I've got recorded. Nearly caught up with Supergirl, watched all 4 Arrowverse series up to the mid-season break and by the time I got there several of the post-break episodes had already come out. Ian MacShane was briefly in Game of Thrones as well.

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    Fairly late in the day but the Android version has now received the update. Something's definitely not right though, parts for the new tables aren't dropping and they appear to be completely absent from the store.

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    I figured as much as well. Parts and the new stuff aren't available just yet on my end either.

    They might have updated the core app, but they still need to get everything else in.

    ....not to mention there's now a limited-time challenge that's not available yet.

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    Err... okay so it works now but I'm not liking what I'm seeing. This might be quittin' time for me with the mobile app.

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    What are you seeing? I’m on iOS so it’s not out yet. You are terrifying me.

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    So here's what's changed:

    Advanced challenges now cost 30 tickets to reset completely.

    You now have a once-per-day Limited Challenge that allows you to earn specific rewards. There are three of these, but only one is unlocked if you don't plan on doing anything else. You'll earn Hurricane parts in this case.

    There is now something on the store that allows you to earn 1 part per day.

    I've not seen any rewards updates for the new tables yet.

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    Thanks Wiz, so parts are not showing up in normal challenges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironmike View Post
    What are you seeing? I’m on iOS so it’s not out yet. You are terrifying me.
    The Smurfberries have changed! Now it's table parts rather than coins.

    - You can spend 50 coins on chests containing 5 random table parts.
    - There is a 7 day 'special offer' costing 250 coins to promote White Water to 2 stars.
    - You can earn parts from a special challenge but they only refresh every 7 days.

    If possible I'd suggest users disable the automatic update and get all the parts they need for the existing 10 tables.

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    Thanks MB. 250 coins just to get to level 2? That’s nuts. If they keep moving the goal posts back, they are going to lose customers.

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    I'm primed and ready for this to hit iOS so I can see exactly what is going on.

    The purpose of this thread was to cut through all the fear mongering and rhetoric to find out exactly what is required to fully upgrade tables, ideally without spending a single cent. So while all signs might be pointing towards "you'll never get there in a million years", it's all a matter of figuring out what really is possible. Android had the change over to new style challenges a week or so ago, didn't it? Nothing has changed on iOS in 2 months according to the app store.

    I've got 405 coins in the bank for upgrading. Can anyone tell me if level 4 still requires 100 parts? And are the daily challenges with the 5 cards to flip now completely gone?
    I'm just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    I've got 405 coins in the bank for upgrading. Can anyone tell me if level 4 still requires 100 parts? And are the daily challenges with the 5 cards to flip now completely gone?
    The Daily Challenges still have the 5 card flip but they now seem to contain: Tickets / Coins / Cosmetics.

    It may still cost 100 coins to promote a table to grade 4, but at the same time the 405 you've earned is only going to buy you 40 random table parts which might not even promote those three new tables to Grade 1.

    If you were grinding for just 1 table and only earned those specific parts:
    Grade 1 / 5 parts - 50 coins
    Grade 2 / 15 parts - 150 coins
    Grade 3 / 50 Parts - 500 coins
    Grade 4 / 100 parts - 1000 coins + 100
    Total promotion cost for one table - 1800 coins

    As a rough estimate you'd have to complete over 1000 challenges to earn those coins in the first place. I really hope I'm wrong though...


    Edit: Sorry slight correction, you'd get 40 random parts (i.e. 8 x 50 coins = 400)
    Last edited by MBeeching; 05-28-2019 at 06:24 PM.

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    So what happened to tickets? I've got over 30,000 of those!
    I'm just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    So what happened to tickets? I've got over 30,000 of those!
    Tickets are still valid for Daily Challenges (and League Play on Android)

    Skip = 5 tickets
    Reset after completion = 20-30 tickets (or wait 24hrs).
    Expert = 15 tickets per play
    Bonus Challenge = 25 tickets per play

    The adverts seems to have disappeared from Advanced.

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    250 coins is now only a 2* unlock, not a full table unlock like before.

    An ad to get... 1 table part.

    The normal grinding unlock progression us the same as before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EldarOfSuburbia View Post
    250 coins is now only a 2* unlock, not a full table unlock like before.

    An ad to get... 1 table part.

    The normal grinding unlock progression us the same as before.
    But there are no parts behind the cards, instead you have to earn a currency to buy most of them. Keeping the numbers basic:

    With the old system I could play 50 challenges and earn 50 parts.
    With the new system I have to play 50 challenges to earn 50 coins, then spend those on 5 parts.

    That's a ten-fold grind increase, earning one a day for watching an advert doesn't cover the deficit.

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    Sry I don't know why you say that. I checked it right now and got 4 from 5 cards Flips after Basic challenge( 15 Tickets, 1 CP Part, 1 stupid customization Skins, 25 tickets) so there are still Table parts earnable through challenges the only thing that bothers me for 2 weeks now is that After 24hours refresh you start with highest difficulty in every challenge but only getting rewards for easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBeeching View Post
    But there are no parts behind the cards, instead you have to earn a currency to buy most of them. Keeping the numbers basic:

    With the old system I could play 50 challenges and earn 50 parts.
    With the new system I have to play 50 challenges to earn 50 coins, then spend those on 5 parts.

    That's a ten-fold grind increase, earning one a day for watching an advert doesn't cover the deficit.
    I was getting parts dropped. Not sure if I got any for the three new tables, but definitely got parts dropped.

    One other thing - my Daily Challenges went Hard-Normal-Hard at each level. Is that a thing now or is something wrong?

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