Android vs. PC

Zorgwon · Nov 6, 2013

Played yesterday on Steam and noticed the following:

The Steam version has:
-lesser graphics
-laggier input
-one single camera view (and thus probably no switching bugs). Skillshots require really skill and a good memory.
-higher prices. One core pack table alone is 7.99 €, 8 times as much as on Android.
-better detail in landscape view (the only view)
-easier to read DMD but without any flashing

So it's not a bad idea to stay faithful to the Android platform. iOS is probably even better.

Baron Rubik · Nov 6, 2013

Zorgwon said:
Played yesterday on Steam and noticed the following:

The Steam version has:
-lesser graphics
-laggier input
-one single camera view (and thus probably no switching bugs). Skillshots require really skill and a good memory.
-higher prices. One core pack table alone is 7.99 €, 8 times as much as on Android.
-better detail in landscape view (the only view)
-easier to read DMD but without any flashing

So it's not a bad idea to stay faithful to the Android platform. iOS is probably even better.

Don't agree

PC graphics are infinitely better than mobile - you need better hardware.

If pc input is lagging, try window as opposed to fullscreen. There are tweaks for nvidea and other settings too (see pc threads).

There are 4 camera views and a lock on pc same as mobile. Changed by pressing 'c' and 'v' respectively but customisable if req.

You can plunge using the mouse just as effectively as on mobile, so not sure what you mean about the skill shot statement.

Pricing is the same as mobile or close. Season 1 £22 or £30pro.
The £8 pack you mention I believe is the initial pack which is 4 tables.

The PC physics blow Android out of the water I'm sad to say.
Hopefully Android might be capable of whatever tweaks have been made to PC. And hopefully Farsight might roll them out despite it not being financially beneficial for them.
They probably won't - but they might.

TZ on Android = ZZZZZZZZ(snore)
TZ on pc = WOW

Zorgwon · Nov 6, 2013

Baron Rubik said:
There are 4 camera views and a lock on pc same as mobile. Changed by pressing 'c' and 'v' respectively but customisable if req.

That might help. Good advice

Baron Rubik said:
You can plunge using the mouse just as effectively as on mobile, so not sure what you mean about the skill shot statement.

Currently I cannot see the plunger on most tables at all. Just skip the plunger view on Android and use landscape to see what I see.

Baron Rubik said:
Pricing is the same as mobile or close. Season 1 £22 or £30pro.
The £8 pack you mention I believe is the initial pack which is 4 tables.

This could be a bug. It says that each table is 8€ and I use english language on Steam which is actually an improvement over Android.

Baron Rubik · Nov 6, 2013

Plunge view has its own camera views also (3 in total).
I prefer 2, which is plan, closest to the plunger.
Changed with 'c' on pc or by pressing cam button on mobile whilst at the point of plunging.

night · Nov 6, 2013

Screenshots vs vs?

Baron Rubik · Nov 6, 2013

night said:
Screenshots vs vs?

Can't help you with that personally, if your post was to me - sorry.

Our family laptop is a cr@ppy i3 integrated graphics affair, so whilst it plays great on pc with 60fps it looks like garbage - but it's my hardware.

PC physics are good enough to make me want to build a pc next year. I don't know if I can afford to - but I definitely want to. I work alongside an IT support department, so I might be begging for parts from them.

Larry · Nov 6, 2013

Not sure how useful this is...I have an AMD card so Post Processing is Off and photobucket probably compresses the images but it should be better than nothing...

http://s778.photobucket.com/user/XGScorch/media/tz1.png.html

hope it helps!

Zorgwon · Nov 6, 2013

Baron Rubik said:
Plunge view has its own camera views also (3 in total).
I prefer 2, which is plan, closest to the plunger.
Changed with 'c' on pc or by pressing cam button on mobile whilst at the point of plunging.

That was the clue

. I was now able to also adjust the widescreen landscape view.

Screenshots failed. With "print" I get white pictures.
I have a Dell Studio 17. I recommend changing the flippers away from SHIFT because that can freeze the input.

night · Nov 6, 2013

Incredible that with all the graphic bells and whistles for the PC version, FarSight still refuses to add any shadows on TZ.

VenomPlug · Nov 12, 2013

There we go, screenshots. I think Android has more natural colors but PC version looks awesome, and more detailed.

superballs · Nov 12, 2013

How about we make this a fair fight:

Here's Star Trek TNG PC:

Here is TOTAN PC:

QuiGonJ · Nov 12, 2013

I like the physics on the PC, but since I use the X Box 360 Controller for Windows, the partial controller support drives me a bit batty.

netizen · Nov 12, 2013

I like some of the tables on the PC, and I like some of the tables on Android.

Playing with a controller makes longer play sessions much easier, where as playing on my 'droid is simpler to just slip in and out of quick games, as well as to have that intuitive shake nudging thing happening, along side portrait mode.

I don't think I will have a favourite for a while until I have a much better PC, or until 'droid technology get substantially better.

I found that going between the two platforms my playing has improved and become much more relaxed. YMMV

Mark W**a · Nov 12, 2013

Zorgwon said:
Played yesterday on Steam and noticed the following:

The Steam version has:
-lesser graphics
-laggier input
-one single camera view (and thus probably no switching bugs). Skillshots require really skill and a good memory.
-higher prices. One core pack table alone is 7.99 €, 8 times as much as on Android.
-better detail in landscape view (the only view)
-easier to read DMD but without any flashing

So it's not a bad idea to stay faithful to the Android platform. iOS is probably even better.

Lol.

Maybe if your PC is horrible or doesn't even have a graphics card? Otherwise PC smokes android and iOS.

Zorgwon · Nov 12, 2013

Mark Wyda said:
Lol.

Maybe if your PC is horrible or doesn't even have a graphics card? Otherwise PC smokes android and iOS.

Maybe you are color blind or just love everything pink. OK, the latest pack looks a bit better because FS didnt bother much with Android. Unfortunately there is no easy way to upload pictures.

netizen · Nov 12, 2013

Zorgwon said:
Unfortunately there is no easy way to upload pictures.

Screencap to image host of your choice, use the

superballs · Nov 12, 2013

netizen said:
Screencap to image host of your choice, use the tag on the forum. Doesn't get any easier than that[/QUOTE]

You're devices are funny.

Mark W**a · Nov 12, 2013

Zorgwon said:
Maybe you are color blind or just love everything pink. OK, the latest pack looks a bit better because FS didnt bother much with Android. Unfortunately there is no easy way to upload pictures.

Farsight's strange lighting choices not withstanding, current-gen Console and PC have a distinct advantage over Android in lighting effects and geometry. They are worlds apart in this respect. Mobile is very bare bones, not much lighting to speak of at all, though I agree I love the bright, colorful playfields. Android version in specific also has some missing alpha effects here and there on tables. It's really no contest, and laughable to suggest otherwise.

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