Williams' Collection Volume 5 guesses

ZREXMike2 · Nov 26, 2019

FX3 is in Walmart? Had no idea they made a disc!

wilbers · Nov 28, 2019

Jeno said keep an eye on the socials tomorrow, so its presumably announcement of Williams volume 5.

Narc0lep5y · Nov 29, 2019

The announcement is that the announcement is Dec 2, Monday.

https://twitter.com/PinballFX/status/1200485073990107138

wilbers · Nov 29, 2019

Has Deep mentioned what his favourite table is on one of the streams about previous pack releases?

Narc0lep5y · Nov 30, 2019

Another teaser - TotAN?

https://twitter.com/zen_studios/status/1200854004944842755

wilbers · Dec 2, 2019

Twitter post just confirmed that Williams volume 5 is ToTaN, Cirqus Voltaire, and No Good Gophers.

https://twitter.com/zen_studios/status/1201501909393330178

wilbers · Dec 2, 2019

Not sure if anyone guessed that TotaN and Cirqus Voltaire would be in the same pack.

wilbers · Dec 2, 2019

jaredmorgs said:
I'm not sure a software studio would release that close to a public holiday. I'm thinking it may be a week earlier.

At least that's how I'd do it for my own sanity.

Release date 10th December as Jared gave us the strong hint at.

curtis · Dec 2, 2019

Here's the announcement for Pack 5
https://youtu.be/L6ch9-eg_8A

Narc0lep5y · Dec 2, 2019

Nice choices. Replacing jack
Bot from Williams with CV makes me wonder about pack 6. Jack Bot, Cactus Canyon, and Who Dunnit isn’t a really strong pack. Jack Bot has ESRB issues with the gambling already.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see non DMD’s (or licensed) next and the last three ititles nterspersed with stronger non dmd tables. If they can get the esrb issues worked out, a Pinbot pack becomes a likely option.

DorkmasterFlek · Dec 2, 2019

Dang that's a fantastic pack! TFTAR and CV in the same pack was an unexpected but awesome surprise, never played NGG but people seem to like that one and the same was true for MM and MB which have fast become some of my favourite tables. Assuming the classic physics will be the same as the Universal Monsters pack, which most people seem to agree are pretty stellar. Let's get those previous packs updated so the physics are all consistent now please!

yespage · Dec 2, 2019

A merry Xmas list there. First trio of what I'd consider to be tables among my favorite pics among all three. It was a bit of a wait from Zen, but definitely worth it!

shogun00 · Dec 2, 2019

Narc0lep5y said:
Jack Bot has ESRB issues with the gambling already.

Considering that the ESRB rated NBA 2K20 'E' and that game has fully functional gambling games (slots, roulette). I think Jack*Bot will be just fine.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see non DMD’s (or licensed) next and the last three titles interspersed with stronger non dmd tables. If they can get the esrb issues worked out, a Pinbot pack becomes a likely option.

That's what I see happening too. For the next three packs, we could see 1 DMD and 2 alphanumerics.

Narc0lep5y · Dec 2, 2019

shogun00 said:
Considering that the ESRB rated NBA 2K20 'E' and that game has fully functional gambling games (slots, roulette). I think Jack*Bot will be just fine.

That's what I see happening too. For the next three packs, we could see 1 DMD and 2 alphanumerics.

Sounds like NBA is a good example for Zen to use when they submit the PinBot pack. Excellent example!

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PinJimmy · Dec 2, 2019

Well Zen is taking their censorship very serious. Probably a lot more serious then they should. Cant wait to see what has been censored this pack. They forgot to censor the opening screen of fx3. Better take a quick look and adjust it.

Citizen · Dec 2, 2019

Aww yiss, double anchor pack. Love TotAN and CV. NGG is ok. Overall very strong pack.

As someone who doesn't really care about any of the 3 remaining unlicensed DMDs, I'd be happy to see them released gradually, mixed in between/with other content.

trash80 · Dec 2, 2019

Narc0lep5y said:
Sounds like NBA is a good example for Zen to use when they submit the PinBot pack. Excellent example!

I wouldn't get my hopes up...

"The Casino mechanics resulted in a lot of fans asking Pegi how they still gave the game a 3 age rating despite the promotion of loot boxes and Casinos. Per Eurogamer, Pegi defended their decision by insisting that the game cannot be classified as gambling because it does not teach players how to gamble or bet. Although this can be debated, the game doesn't technically include gambling as players don't wager real money in the slot machines, wheel of fortune or pachinko mini-games. Plus, the winnings are only in-game content that can be earned through gameplay. Aside from Pegi, another point of contention was the ESRB not even assigning a Simulated Gambling description."

Pinballwiz45b · Dec 2, 2019

Pokemon Red and Blue say hi. PEGI 12+ for gambling mechanics, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T WAGER REAL MONEY.

Jack*Bot and WHO dunnit are just as likely to be stricken down.

shutyertrap · Dec 2, 2019

The point I remember being made by Mel in one of our conversations is not that anything in these tables would increase the rating, just that they have to change what is listed as being in the game. That means adding ‘sexual innuendo, alcohol, and gambling references’ to what pops up under the ESRB rating. Thing is, they’d have to resubmit everything. So better to wait until you know everything that needs to be included (and proof there’s a family safe version included) than to have to submit repeatedly.

Citizen · Dec 2, 2019

Oh great, so we're not only at the mercy of them not wanting to go over an E10+ rating, but we're also at the mercy of them not wanting certain terms under the rating.

That's even worse.

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