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    there is only 660gb left over on the PS5, the 200gb taken is for the OS and quick load/save/swap I guess.

    wolfson: You saying if a user doesn't have a portable external drive, they can't download PS4 games?!? I know you can play them from there (though I thought that wasn't "ready" yet but are you saying they HAVE to be on there?

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    ^^Wow.....660 gig space for a console aimed at 4k 120fps and RT, so just were are all those 4k and Rt textures going to be stored, in lal lal land. lol

    How many game are you going to be able to store on that 4/5....games the PS4 and over 80/90 gig, and that is for 1080p textures. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by The loafer View Post
    there is only 660gb left over on the PS5, the 200gb taken is for the OS and quick load/save/swap I guess.

    wolfson: You saying if a user doesn't have a portable external drive, they can't download PS4 games?!? I know you can play them from there (though I thought that wasn't "ready" yet but are you saying they HAVE to be on there?
    You can download your PS4 games to the internal drive from what I've heard. I think currently, you can't store PS5 games on an external drive, and they are working on that.

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    Is there anyone that has all the tables for Pinball Arcade and tried them on PS5? I just want to make sure they all work since this game is on the list of games that may experience problems on PS5, but it doesn't say what those problems are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The loafer View Post
    there is only 660gb left over on the PS5, the 200gb taken is for the OS and quick load/save/swap I guess.

    wolfson: You saying if a user doesn't have a portable external drive, they can't download PS4 games?!? I know you can play them from there (though I thought that wasn't "ready" yet but are you saying they HAVE to be on there?
    loafer it`s all confusing for my pea brain , you can store PS5 on the outside hard drive but you can`t play them , but you can transfer to the inside hard drive from there . the youngsters at EB Games said there are no outside hard drive for the PS5 yet . the extra space for an added hard drive inside the console has been turned off for now . RevengeFan i have played quite a lot of the tables and so far all good . i would have played more but i`ve been playin Project Cars 3 , Dirt 5 and NFS Heat . i`m very happy with te console . al my PS4 games play really well on the PS5 .

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    a little vid on the PS5 which might help .

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    sorry i got mixed up with XBOX , you can`t store PS5 games on your PS4 external hard drive . spins my head haha

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    ^^What!, you can't even store PS5 games on a external storage device, this is madness, the internal SDD is way too small for modern games yet they won't even allow you to store your library on a external device so you don't need to keep downloading them, like you can do now with last gen, hell you can do it on the new xbox consoles, so why are Sony not allowing it, this is nuts. lol
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    Firefox , from what i have managed to find out , we are going to wait until they decide when to bring the extension hard drive out . i`m using my old extension from my PS4 for all of my PS4 games , every game works except for Isle of Man 2 . i get my XBOX in about 10 days but i have already bought and picked up a 1 TB card . not exactly cheap $356 au which is about $220 us . they are screwing my little brain . once everything settles down we should be fine , i hope . personally i think XBOX has the better setup .

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    The storage space of the PS5 is a complete joke.. and you know the special extension drive is gonna cost a ton..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfson View Post
    loafer it`s all confusing for my pea brain , you can store PS5 on the outside hard drive but you can`t play them , but you can transfer to the inside hard drive from there . the youngsters at EB Games said there are no outside hard drive for the PS5 yet . the extra space for an added hard drive inside the console has been turned off for now . RevengeFan i have played quite a lot of the tables and so far all good . i would have played more but i`ve been playin Project Cars 3 , Dirt 5 and NFS Heat . i`m very happy with te console . al my PS4 games play really well on the PS5 .
    Thanks, it's good to know that the Pinball Arcade will work whenever I can get a PS5. I wonder why it was on that list of problematic games then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevengeFan View Post
    Thanks, it's good to know that the Pinball Arcade will work whenever I can get a PS5. I wonder why it was on that list of problematic games then.
    Because it's somewhat problematic on PS4, so they were likely seeing those same issues on PS5 during BC testing, not realizing they're just existing issues in the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfson View Post
    Firefox , from what i have managed to find out , we are going to wait until they decide when to bring the extension hard drive out . i`m using my old extension from my PS4 for all of my PS4 games , every game works except for Isle of Man 2 . i get my XBOX in about 10 days but i have already bought and picked up a 1 TB card . not exactly cheap $356 au which is about $220 us . they are screwing my little brain . once everything settles down we should be fine , i hope . personally i think XBOX has the better setup .
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    And... has anyone tried TPA on the PS5 yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFHFony View Post
    And... has anyone tried TPA on the PS5 yet?
    Yes! Wolfson confirmed (post #48) that TPA worked just fine on his PS5.

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    For the uninitiated, there will NOT be a way to run PS5 and XSX games off the external USB drives. These games are designed to take advantage of the internal SSD's so will only work with an SSD drive. IE: in some cases, these drives are used by the XSX/PS5 game very much akin to RAM, so to load the data from the external drive could cripple the game. So both Sony and MS have decreed if it's a next gen game, it needs to use the SSD.

    Yeah space is an issue. If I understand correctly, SOME games will use less space than the last gen. The reason for this is because the SSD is so fast, games don't need to have multiple identical textures saved in multiple locations to speed up loading times as they are accessible almost instantaneously. and FYI, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale...

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    ^^^I can undertand that, but not allowing you to at least store 90gig plus games onto a external HHD so you only have to DL them once is madness, moreso as it's a feature used in the last gen of consoles, and at least MS allow you to do it on the their new consoles, but Sony are just trying to be funny not having that simple feature at launch, as i have a Pro and XBX and storing their games onto a external 2tb HDD is a god send, i don't even play them from the external HDD, i just make space on the internal and copy over the next game that takes my fancy, so Sony really need to get their finger out on such a simple but consumer freindly feature.
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    Anyone with a PS5 and TPA.. can you try the Tournament and see if it works for you? .. Does it allow you to even play.. is it recording scores.. etc..

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    Captain Caveman yes it works , i played 2 tables and it recorded both scores

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfson View Post
    Captain Caveman yes it works , i played 2 tables and it recorded both scores
    Thanks wolfson for taking the time to test..

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    no worries , Captain Caveman for myself XBOX SERIES X is better because , it has quick resume which is great for pinball with , Pinball Arcade , FX3 Pinball and Zaccaria Pinball . you can leave one game and enter the other , and you are back in within a couple of seconds resuming from where you left off last time you played .i always buy both consoles and i can say i`m very happy with both consoles .

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfson View Post
    no worries , Captain Caveman for myself XBOX SERIES X is better because , it has quick resume which is great for pinball with , Pinball Arcade , FX3 Pinball and Zaccaria Pinball . you can leave one game and enter the other , and you are back in within a couple of seconds resuming from where you left off last time you played .i always buy both consoles and i can say i`m very happy with both consoles .
    So no issues with the PS5 like many others?

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    there`s always issues Captain Caveman , but i don`t let it worry me , eventually they get fixed . the main ones i had trouble with was Dirt 5 and Project Cars 3 crashing they seem to be good again . also GTA 5 sent me back to the start of the story mode and i had to play the prologue twice so i could play online . RDR 2 i had no issues and i have played Horizon 3 & 4 . these are the games i have mainly played .

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    Horizon 3 & 4 is on XBOX .the other games were on PS5 .

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    For those interested, tested every table on PS5 and they run great. You do get a warning when loading the game up, so there may be a glitch somewhere but I'm yet to find it. I own all the tables (pro) incl. ACDC, Addams Family, both Star Treks, Mustang, Buck Hunter etc..

    They just need to;

    - fix the purchasing of the balls. (asking me to buy them again despite owning them all)
    - update the look and feel of the UI/menus etc.. looks old and stale
    - start releasing new tables. Data East and latest Stern etc..

    It's such a great collection, I hope they find a way to re-engage.

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