Joypad Deadzones

Carl Spiby · Dec 2, 2013

Either we need the ability to set these ourselves or you need to increase them because the X360 controller I use, the flippers are getting stuck in the flipped position when I'm not even touching the shoulder buttons.

Small thing, but highly irritating.

JPelter · Dec 2, 2013

Carl Spiby said:
Either we need the ability to set these ourselves or you need to increase them because the X360 controller I use, the flippers are getting stuck in the flipped position when I'm not even touching the shoulder buttons.

Small thing, but highly irritating.

Have you calibrated the pad? A working gamepad shouldn't have that issue even with 0% deadzones.

Jeff Strong · Dec 2, 2013

My 360 controller works fine, so yeah, try calibrating.

Carl Spiby · Dec 2, 2013

Calibrated it in windows Control Panel and it still happens.

Filip · Dec 2, 2013

Why would we play Pinball using a joypad on PC? The only way to get close to a Pinball simulation on PC would be to play on a mechanical keyboard at least...

Sean DonCarlos · Dec 2, 2013

Filip said:
Why would we play Pinball using a joypad on PC? The only way to get close to a Pinball simulation on PC would be to play on a mechanical keyboard at least...

Variable-force nudging, for starters.

xAzatothx · Dec 2, 2013

Sean DonCarlos said:
Variable-force nudging, for starters.

+1

Carl Spiby · Dec 2, 2013

So, nobody else is experiencing this? Theres nothing wrong with the joypad, it works in other games and just dandy on the XBOX...

Filip · Dec 2, 2013

Sean DonCarlos said:
Variable-force nudging, for starters.

yes, but playing with a pad is so irrelevant that it reduces the interest of variable force nudging. It would require some other more appropriate device. I can't imagine playing Pinball with a pad... I guess variable force nudging is not that important to leave keyboard for a pad...

Sean DonCarlos · Dec 2, 2013

Filip said:
yes, but playing with a pad is so irrelevant that it reduces the interest of variable force nudging. It would require some other more appropriate device. I can't imagine playing Pinball with a pad... I guess variable force nudging is not that important to leave keyboard for a pad...

Well, that's a matter of personal taste. Some of us find variable nudging more realistic than fixed nudging. When I play a real machine, I don't have to shove the machine violently; I can be subtle if I want.

Naildriver74 · Dec 2, 2013

Carl Spiby said:
So, nobody else is experiencing this? Theres nothing wrong with the joypad, it works in other games and just dandy on the XBOX...

Mine works fine. Wireless 360

Crazy Newt · Dec 2, 2013

My wired Xbox 360 controller works fine with no issues to report. Maybe a file got corrupted? I would try Steam's file integrity scan, and as a last resort you might want to re-install the entire game.

The analog nudge is great, as is the rumble feature of the pad. Prefer this over keyboard by a mile over hitting Shift keys on a keyboard, which is not any more realistic feeling to me, even with a clicking mechanical keyboard.

Jeff Strong · Dec 2, 2013

Crazy Newt said:
The analog nudge is great, as is the rumble feature of the pad. Prefer this over keyboard by a mile over hitting Shift keys on a keyboard, which is not any more realistic feeling to me, even with a clicking mechanical keyboard.

Yeah, a keyboard is definitely a step back for me too. If you want realism, build a pin cab.

superballs · Dec 2, 2013

360 pad works for me using triggers with upper flipper control on

BonzoGonzo · Dec 2, 2013

Crazy Newt said:
The analog nudge is great, as is the rumble feature of the pad. Prefer this over keyboard by a mile over hitting Shift keys on a keyboard, which is not any more realistic feeling to me, even with a clicking mechanical keyboard.

this.

Roo · Dec 2, 2013

Carl Spiby said:
So, nobody else is experiencing this? Theres nothing wrong with the joypad, it works in other games and just dandy on the XBOX...

Are you sure it isn't registering a tiny bit of input due to mechanical wear? One of my old 360 controllers does this on one of the analog sticks. It doesn't like to snap back to the exact middle sometimes and it's enough to cause a gentle drift to the left in some games once in a while (if the game input on the axis is sensitive enough). Not sure if something similar can happen to the triggers.

Munky · Dec 3, 2013

Filip said:
Why would we play Pinball using a joypad on PC? The only way to get close to a Pinball simulation on PC would be to play on a mechanical keyboard at least...

The ability to park my ass in the recliner and play pinball in portrait mode on a 72" TV.

Carl Spiby · Dec 3, 2013

Roo said:
Are you sure it isn't registering a tiny bit of input due to mechanical wear? One of my old 360 controllers does this on one of the analog sticks. It doesn't like to snap back to the exact middle sometimes and it's enough to cause a gentle drift to the left in some games once in a while (if the game input on the axis is sensitive enough). Not sure if something similar can happen to the triggers.

The pad is fine on Xbox and every other game though.

It needs a small (or configurable) deadzone!

JPelter · Dec 3, 2013

Carl Spiby said:
The pad is fine on Xbox and every other game though.

It needs a small (or configurable) deadzone!

I know this isn't ideal, but you can just remap the flippers to the upper shoulder buttons instead of the triggers till you figure something else out or farsight takes a look at it.

Stuart Webster · Dec 3, 2013

I've added a 30/255 deadzone as suggested by Microsoft (see Remarks).

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