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  • Cirqus Voltaire / Funhouse

    17 51.52%
  • Gorgar / Monster Bash

    21 63.64%
  • Creature from the Black Lagoon / Black Knight

    4 12.12%
  • Dr. Dude & HIs Excellent Ray / Firepower

    3 9.09%
  • Cactus Canyon / Central Park

    2 6.06%
  • Space Shuttle / White Water

    14 42.42%
  • Fish Tales

    9 27.27%
  • WHO Dunnit

    4 12.12%
  • High Speed

    4 12.12%
  • Bram Stoker's Dracula

    8 24.24%
  • The Party Zone

    0 0%
  • Cyclone

    2 6.06%
  • Xenon

    1 3.03%
  • Safe Cracker

    3 9.09%
  • The Getaway: High Speed 2

    2 6.06%
  • F-14 Tomcat

    4 12.12%
  • No Fear: Dangerous Sports*

    3 9.09%
  • Fireball

    0 0%
  • Hurricane*

    1 3.03%
  • Indianapolis 500*

    1 3.03%
  • Eight Ball Deluxe*

    17 51.52%
  • Paragon

    3 9.09%
  • Firepower II

    0 0%
  • Fathom

    1 3.03%
  • Spanish Eyes

    0 0%
  • Wild Card

    0 0%
  • Sorcerer

    2 6.06%
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Thread: Which Williams/Bally packs should I buy?

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    Which Williams/Bally packs should I buy?

    Hey everyone,

    Being a poor man I haven't been buying season passes but rather individual tables whenever my budget allows. My budget just won't let me buy up all the remaining Williams/Bally tables before the license ends, but fortunately I do already have all the Williams/Bally tables that I really wanted.

    But since this will be my last chance to buy any of the left overs before they're gone, I'm looking for some guidance on which tables I should invest in. So I am going for a poll. Any tables not in this poll I've either A) already bought or B) I've tried out and decided I have no interest.

    So these are the remaining contenders. I figure my budget will let me buy about 4 more tables so please feel free to place up to 4 votes. The results won't make the final determination, but they'll definitely be among the final contenders.

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    Can you give some examples of tables you own and enjoy. Might make it easier to give you recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanija View Post
    Can you give some examples of tables you own and enjoy. Might make it easier to give you recommendations.
    The tables I've enjoyed the most are Attack From Mars (an easier table but a lot fun), T2, Doctor Who (b/c I'm a fan of the show), Diner (a more difficult table for me - but that's not a bad thing), Bride of PinBot, Taxi, and lately I've been playing a lot of Swords of Fury.

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    I went for Dr. Dude & Firepower - I think those are 2 good tables for the price of one, same goes for Gorgar & Monster Bash. Eight Ball Deluxe as a bit more challenging table and Indy 500, because I think it's a nice table to play every now and then.

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    Gorgar/Monster Bash and Eight Ball Deluxe are the must haves for me. After that the decision is tough. Lots of very good ones left. CV/Funhouse is a classic 2 pack. CFTBL and BK are also a good 2 pack, as is White Water/Space Shuttle. But I also couldn’t stand not having Bram Stokers Dracula, Fathom, Sorcerer, and Cactus Canyon.
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    Watch the videos on YouTube and see which theme clicks with you. Dracula for instance is pretty brutal but the movie license makes it stand out. Otherwise Monster Bash is a must, CV/Funhouse bundle as well and then maybe Space Shuttle /WW.

    It's tough!

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    the packs the boys have picked above are all great TeamScience , I`m just wondering , have you anything at home you don`t use , that you could sell ? that way you might be able to get a few extra packs !!!

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    How much is the cost of 4 packs vs. the season?

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    Thanks for all the suggestions, keep em coming. I plan to buy the tables as late as possible. So far the leader is "Gorgar / Monster Bash". I did enjoy trying out Monster Bash, but I wasn't all that impressed with Gorgar. I definitely do have a preference for mid 80's to early '90's tables.

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    Your taste seem to align with mine. With that said:
    -you REALLY want monster bash. I dont dig Gorgar either, but MB is great.
    -Then, try out space shuttle, if you like SoF you might like that as well. If you do its a great pack with White water. Same goes for Black Knight and creature. (but I dont like BK).
    -If you like Tales ot Arabian nights and Theatre of magic, get CV and funhouse.
    -The fourth...yea I cant pick....its between like 6 or 7 tables...
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    For the first table I went with Bram Stoker's Dracula. Meanwhile Xenon and Eight Ball Deluxe are getting serious consideration.

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    The Getaway II -- this is one of my favorite tables.

    don't know why Black Knight 2000 isn't on your list but get it, seriously.

    Sorcerer and F-14 Tomcat -- For tables made from the '80s, these are so much fun!

    Swords of Fury -- this is a fun table. I like it a lot.

    Indy 500 -- if you like silly games like Medieval Madness, get this one. They actually talk about the cars leaving the track and having mishaps in city driving.

    Eight Ball Deluxe -- I like this one, historically this is a good table and fun to play.

    Wild Card is okay but I HATE SPANISH EYES. The ball drains way too easy.

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    I'll make it real easy for you because I did a poll last week on all the tables. I didn't give any tables a 1 out of 10, but here's my opinion on the tables you're considering:

    9 -- Cirqus Voltaire / 8 — Funhouse

    9 — Monster Bash / 8 — Gorgar

    9 — Creature from the Black Lagoon / 6 — Black Knight (Black Knight 2000, by the way got a 10)

    8 — Dr. Dude / 5 — Firepower

    7 — Cactus Canyon / 6 — Central Park

    8 — Space Shuttle / 9 — White Water

    6 — Fish Tales (this is a fan favorite but I have a hard time getting into it. I may make this a 7 later)

    8 — WHO dunnit

    4 — High Speed

    7 — Bram Stoker's Dracula

    9 — Party Zone (dumb but hilarious)

    7 — Cyclone (Cyclone is a very dull game. I would only pick it up for the historical context of the game.

    5 — Xenon (I honestly think other than how old the table is it's tough to get into)

    10 — The Getaway: High Speed II

    9 — F-14 Tomcat

    7 — No Fear: Dangerous Sports

    4 — Fireball

    7 — Hurricane

    9 — Indianapolis 500

    7 — Eight Ball Deluxe (may move this up to an 8)

    3 — Paragon

    6 — Firepower II

    6 — Fathom

    4 — Spanish Eyes

    7 — Wild Card

    10 — Sorcerer

    These are all the ones you have considered on your list and my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maneki1972 View Post
    The Getaway II -- this is one of my favorite tables.

    don't know why Black Knight 2000 isn't on your list but get it, seriously.

    Sorcerer and F-14 Tomcat -- For tables made from the '80s, these are so much fun!

    Swords of Fury -- this is a fun table. I like it a lot.

    Indy 500 -- if you like silly games like Medieval Madness, get this one. They actually talk about the cars leaving the track and having mishaps in city driving.

    Eight Ball Deluxe -- I like this one, historically this is a good table and fun to play.

    Wild Card is okay but I HATE SPANISH EYES. The ball drains way too easy.

    The good news is I already own Black Knight 2000. The options I provided for this poll are the tables that I don't yet own for the most part, but in a few cases they're tables that I don't have interest it. I've already picked up Swords of Fury too.

    The reason why Indy 500 isn't on my radar is partly due to lack of interest in the theme, but also because I found it not dissimilar to other tables I've gotten.

    I am leaning towards Eight Ball Deluxe and Xenon just to get a couple of older tables as I have a lot of those '90's era tables.
    Last edited by TeamScience; 06-21-2018 at 09:33 AM.

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    I can only pick 4? Aargh...

    Went with Space Shuttle / White Water (no brainer as far as I'm concerned), Fish Tales (had to choose between this and Dracula - you need one lightning flipper ball-breaker table, I went with FT but BSD is just as valid), then added F-14 (a personal fave, great light show) and Eight Ball Deluxe because it's the single greatest time-waster table there is.
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    If you could only pick 4, I'd say pick up:

    1. Eight Ball Deluxe. It's a good solid table and a fan favorite.

    2. Gorgar / Monster Bash or Cirqus Voltaire / FunHouse -- Monster Bash is SO much fun and CV is as well.

    3. get either F-14 Tomcat or get Sorcerer. Like I said, these are '80s tables that are fun to play and stand the test of time.

    4. The Getaway II or Fish Tales -- The Getaway II is one of my favorite early '90s tables, Fish Tales I have a hard time getting into but a lot of people love it.

    It's ironic because a month ago I was in your situation, I was filling out surveys to get money for these tables. Through a stroke of fate, I got an unemployment check for $1700 so I was like "Screw this" and bought all 7 seasons, also God of War, The Witcher III and Dragon Crown Pro.

    Personally, Black Knight was okay, but I much preferred Bk2k to it, but Creature of the Black Lagoon is aces fun.

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    Fish Tales, Dracula and Eight Ball Deluxe are all obligatory, for me.

    Then I'd suggest a 2-pack. Either Monster Bash/Gorgar, Cirqus Voltaire/Funhouse, or White Water/Space Shuttle. My preference would be for MB/Gorgar.

    Although I've noticed you've mentioned an interest in Xenon a couple of times. It's not a super popular table around here but I find it extremely relaxing. It's one of my favorite tables to just zone out and waste time with. Same with Gorgar. Just nice, simple early SS tables. If you're looking to add some era variety to your collection with one or two good late 70s/early 80s tables, I'd say Xenon, Gorgar and Eight Ball Deluxe are all good options.

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    Okay for tables 2 & 3 I got Monster Bash / Gogar. Although I am still not impressed by Gogar Monster Bash is worth it. I also reevaluated Xenon against Eight Ball Deluxe, after deciding that I'd be getting one over the other rather than both. Eight Ball Deluxe won. Most likely just getting one more table pack, and Who Dunnit might be in the lead due to its unique theme.
    Last edited by TeamScience; 06-23-2018 at 01:02 PM.

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    Who dunnit is a lot of fun, as are the four I mentioned in point 3 or 4. You could not go wrong with any of them.

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    Mr. TeamScience, did you get your last table in time? with time really winding down, I imagine now is a good time to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maneki1972 View Post
    Mr. TeamScience, did you get your last table in time? with time really winding down, I imagine now is a good time to ask.
    WHO Dunnit? ended up being the last table. Before making the final selection I did do a trial run of all the remaining tables, and it really came down to Xenon vs. WHO Dunnit?, and I went with WHO Dunnit? because it was a bit cheaper (being from one of the older seasons). Maybe I'll shell out a bit more for Xenon, but I'm most likely done with this spending spree.

    Here's my thoughts on a few of the other tables I didn't get (at least the ones that got the popular vote):


    Cirqus Voltaire / Funhouse: These are okay tables, in a perfect world I would have gotten around to them eventually but I just didn't rank them higher than the tables I got.

    Creature from the Black Lagoon / Black Knight: Already have Black Knight 2000, and I was not blown away by CftBL.

    Space Shuttle / White Water: Would have eventually gotten this solely for Space Shuttle, but White Water just didn't interest me.

    Fish Tales: Uninterested due to its theme, plus the table didn't blow me away.

    High Speed & The Getaway: High Speed II: I already have the Harley Davidson table which I've found it to be somewhat similar to these tables, plus the choice between these is kind of hard since they're practically the same table...

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    so I am not the only one who doesn't think Fish Tales is so great. I don't know why, it seems funny enough (although MM and MB are much more funny) but it's not reaching out and grabbing me the way most pinball tables in general do.

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    I got the 1st season on disc and only have enough money to buy two tables I'm pretty sure I'll get addams family and stuck between judge dredd and Dracula which would you recommend?

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    of the two, Judge Dredd is more fun but Dracula will be harder to get in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbfarrell View Post
    I got the 1st season on disc and only have enough money to buy two tables I'm pretty sure I'll get addams family and stuck between judge dredd and Dracula which would you recommend?

    Dracula is my recommendation, but that's just because I was really unimpressed by Judge Dredd.

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