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    Arcade1up Pinball?

    Have you guys seen this? Itís gotta be FarSightís engine. Manufacturer is Toyshock.


    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Haunted-H...7000/211973564

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JGczVTln5QU

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    Definitely all are tables that exist TPA. Very likely that it is Farsight's table recreations. Seems pretty cool, but I'd like to actually see one in action. Videos just don't convey the sizing scale, but I'd assume it's close to the same scale as the Arcade1Up units, but in pinball form.

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    If FarSight had anything to do with this, it's quite shocking they haven't said a thing. Also, I would think it'd go in direct competition with the deal they have with Arcooda (not that anyone has seen one of those cabinets yet), but who knows? I mean it makes total sense that this would use the TPA versions, but why in the world would FarSight not be promoting this?
    I'm just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    If FarSight had anything to do with this, it's quite shocking they haven't said a thing. Also, I would think it'd go in direct competition with the deal they have with Arcooda (not that anyone has seen one of those cabinets yet), but who knows? I mean it makes total sense that this would use the TPA versions, but why in the world would FarSight not be promoting this?
    Thing is though, is Arcooda Pinball Arcade available for use commercially, as in a location setting? This model is home use only and has 12 of the 60 or so tables Arcooda offers. Plus, the 12 look like they're running on the mobile version of the game, given the ball looks.

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    It definitely has to be FarSight's tables, given the selection. Not only is it all Gottlieb, but it features some of FarSight's legendary dud choices of Gottlieb tables.

    The question is just if it's properly licensed or if FarSight is gonna get to sue someone.

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    Curiously Cue Ball Wizard is in main photo of facebook group but isn't mentioned anywhere else (I haven't joined the group so don't know what the posts say)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/687692665087322/

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    Gladiators and Tee'd Off are also shown in that Facebook profile picture but not mentioned in the video showcasing the Haunted House one from Walmart.

    It seems there will be several skins with several assortments of tables. And apparently there will be some overlapping, since Black Hole is shown as a table skin but is also shown as being included with the Haunted House table skin.

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    I've joined the Facebook group and I'm asking some questions about how this thing is possible.

    Somebody asked very early on if this was just a Farsight bit of software with a new skin. There is no answer as yet.

    People are already talking about using this as a cheap cabinet and then adding all the other pincab staples like a second screen etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    If FarSight had anything to do with this, it's quite shocking they haven't said a thing.
    It's possible that there is a NDA with Farsight until a specific date and Walmart jumped the gun and listed the preorder early.

    I've seen this happen a few times before with indie games. A title gets announced prematurely by a large retailer and the indie company still has to remain silent until specific date.

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    I did send a Facebook message to FarSight a few days ago about whether or not they were involved in this. No response.

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    looks awesome. wonder if it works with nudges. at $400 i would say this is an android device, cant be a pc xbox or ps4 or would cost more, and apple wouldnt just let them use an ipad. with the cost to produce the cabinet alone i wouldnt bet on this thing having a very good resolution, probably 720x1280. also no dmd, no second screen. ...at least it doesnt seem to have a 2nd screen, and when they are playing bone busters in the vid the backglass is still haunted house. perhaps the dmd will display on the top of the single screen for those tables.
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    Pinball Arcade themselves confirmed this is a legit product.


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    The ad for the product is a red flag as they show virtually no actual game play, just a few blips, meanwhile they show kids and adults acting like they have never seen an electronic device before.

    There are a couple buttons on the side, making me think the blues ones are for nudging. One other thing "High Scores recorded and saved for every game"... almost as if Farsight didn't even bother to modify the code to stop needless saving!

    And finally "3D Digital Pinball"? That looks 2D to me. Tilting a 2D screen on its axis doesn't automatically make it a 3D experience.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    looks awesome. wonder if it works with nudges. at $400 i would say this is an android device, cant be a pc xbox or ps4 or would cost more, and apple wouldnt just let them use an ipad. with the cost to produce the cabinet alone i wouldnt bet on this thing having a very good resolution, probably 720x1280. also no dmd, no second screen. ...at least it doesnt seem to have a 2nd screen, and when they are playing bone busters in the vid the backglass is still haunted house. perhaps the dmd will display on the top of the single screen for those tables.
    For $400, I think I could survive all of those things. It is the table selection that are finger nails on the chalkboard. A number of those tables are on my list of unpreferred tables. And with this likely being mobile, the games won't even play as well as on a console.

    And with this out when Zen is prettying up new Williams Bally releases, seems like too little way too late... even if the price tag seems decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinballwiz45b View Post
    Pinball Arcade themselves confirmed this is a legit product.
    Would love to see that confirmation myself.

    Also sounds like the absolute death nail for FarSight doing anything else with pinball, as it seems like a last minute cash grab before abandoning the license.
    I'm just sayin'

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    400 bucks could actually get you a functional but worn down needs love 70's gottlieb, as long as you were able to pick it up and avoid shipping. Not any popular title will be found that cheap but believe me you can find something.
    This mini pinball machine looks so damn cute though. but yeah the table selection doesnt have anything that great and its probably low res and simplified to keep the processing unit's cost down. none of the tables listed have a 2nd button so your probably right about those being the nudge buttons.
    analyzing the crap out of the video I'm now 100% sure the back glass is not a screen i can see warping in the score parts while the rest stays static, so those are score displays like on older pins and calculators. Probably it was an error that they mentioned any tables that have dmd and this is pre-dmd tables only. The price point of all the arcade cabs this company has been putting out is always 400 so you know they wouldn't just throw an extra screen in there at the same cost, especially since the processing unit in this already needs to be way more powerful than what it takes to run street fighter II and Ms Pac-Man.
    I would say if your looking for something as a really cool decoration then grab this right away it's awesome, but if you expect a better playing experience than you already have with these tables you will most likely be let down, i'd wait for some hands on reviews and decide then.

    all this just really makes me wish farsight will delve into all those stern 70's tables which would be perfect for this kind of cab. Sucks farsight just sort of flaked out after the williams/bally debacle even though they have so many hundreds of older unlicensed gems to pull from.

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    Itís a single 24Ē display for the play field. Backglass is an image, so hope you like Haunted House!

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    cool we know the size... okay so forget what i said about 720p, now that i have the size and have seen tear downs of their other products and checked part numbers on those other monitors... (yes im insane ha) i guarantee you this is the monitor that will be inside https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...49a95185asRUDM

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    Itís not made by 1up, so donít base anything on what that company uses.

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    And finally "3D Digital Pinball"? That looks 2D to me. Tilting a 2D screen on its axis doesn't automatically make it a 3D experience.
    But the machine itself is a 3 dimensional object.

    1,000,000,000 IQ marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutyertrap View Post
    Would love to see that confirmation myself.
    What do you mean? The video is on FarSight's YT channel. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying here?

    it seems like a last minute cash grab before abandoning the license.
    Good.

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    aw man i think i checked everything other than what company was putting it out just assuming it's 1up, my bad. i'm gonna track back and go with my original theory that it's 720p. it will definitely be an uncased monitor like this one though controlled by a mipi interface board, if anyone plans to mod this you will not be able to just plug hdmi/vga into it, you will either need to get a compatible mipi board with hdmi in or most likely scrap the monitor and put a different one in.

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    Thatís all I was looking for, where the proof was since I wasnít gonna hunt it myself.

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    Any victims, I mean people interested in testing that thing out?

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    I don't understand the lack of marketing here. If it is a Farsight product why not promote it. Having a video on your youtube but not actually mentioning it anywhere else or in a press release is kind of wierd. Unless of course they know its not a very good product, which remains to be seen. Personally seems a bit overpriced, but the idea is cool.

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