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<blockquote data-quote="BStarfire" data-source="post: 233976" data-attributes="member: 1963"><p>Loving everyone's lists! I enjoy Gottlieb EM’s - both from the 70’s, but especially the early to mid-60’s. However, looking at the other lists it seems not too many people have much from 1966 or earlier. This makes my #1 choice of Slick Chick either unlikely or unfair – and no reason to press my favorite if it is such a limited audience. </p><p> </p><p>So based on a combination of popularity, production numbers (both replay, 2 and 4 player variants, etc.), and the EM games we already have in TPA, here is a potential minimal list of various combinations to give us the greatest variety of Gottlieb EM goodness, revised to try to be as inclusive as possible.</p><p></p><p>One Gottlieb EM: If only one more Gottlieb EM were done – Melody (1967) – don’t be fooled by the low production number as it’s the add-a-ball version of Sing Along, which had a greater number. Also, production numbers in the 60’s must be compared as a percentage of total machines produced, as pinball volume increased dramatically in the 70’s. Melody combines multiple concepts from the best of Gottlieb 60’s pinball playfields, and the add-a-ball rules make sense and are perfect for a TPA game. Roll-overs, targets, the kick-out holes. This game comes closest to representing 60’s Gottliebs and while I’ve always had the nostalgic feeling for Kings and Queens, Crosstown, Slick Chick, etc. – Melody is probably a better player. I’ll have to let Melody represent all that I like in 60’s Gottliebs and forego any realistic expectation of getting the others. But it’s a fine game, so that’s OK. </p><p> </p><p>Two Gottlieb EM’s: If TPA only ever gets two more Gottlieb EM’s – Melody for one of them and Centigrade 37 for the other. C37 has the four in-lanes used on many late EM’s, the oft-used bagatelle lanes on the right, and is a great player. I really like Atlantis, but only if it were in the context of lots of other Gottlieb’s (trying to maximize variety because we won’t get many EM’s). We have Big Shot and El Dorado – lots of drop targets, so we should defer to games that offer some greater variety (making Royal Flush and Atlantis candidates if more EM’s were made). I suppose one could argue that the next GTB EM should be C37, and then Melody. </p><p> </p><p>C37 may not be everyone’s first choice, but hopefully in everyone’s top five or so, and provides good play variety to the EM’s we already have and represents many aspects of the best of Gottlieb 70’s pinball. So C37 might be the best choice for the next Gottlieb EM, though I think a C37/Melody would be perfect – and be a good sample of GTB EM’s even if we never got another one. </p><p></p><p>After that, the next wave of games that make the most sense based on variety and popularity would be some combination of: Surf Champ, Fast Draw, Royal Flush. After that, maybe Atlantis or Spirit of 76 could be worked in (or Buccaneer). I still have my personal preferences, but I think that a better concensus on what the next Gottlieb EM's should be (and after that) might be more likely to produce a TPA EM sooner rather than later.</p><p></p><p>Now pushing the campaign for C37/Melody.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BStarfire, post: 233976, member: 1963"] Loving everyone's lists! I enjoy Gottlieb EM’s - both from the 70’s, but especially the early to mid-60’s. However, looking at the other lists it seems not too many people have much from 1966 or earlier. This makes my #1 choice of Slick Chick either unlikely or unfair – and no reason to press my favorite if it is such a limited audience. So based on a combination of popularity, production numbers (both replay, 2 and 4 player variants, etc.), and the EM games we already have in TPA, here is a potential minimal list of various combinations to give us the greatest variety of Gottlieb EM goodness, revised to try to be as inclusive as possible. One Gottlieb EM: If only one more Gottlieb EM were done – Melody (1967) – don’t be fooled by the low production number as it’s the add-a-ball version of Sing Along, which had a greater number. Also, production numbers in the 60’s must be compared as a percentage of total machines produced, as pinball volume increased dramatically in the 70’s. Melody combines multiple concepts from the best of Gottlieb 60’s pinball playfields, and the add-a-ball rules make sense and are perfect for a TPA game. Roll-overs, targets, the kick-out holes. This game comes closest to representing 60’s Gottliebs and while I’ve always had the nostalgic feeling for Kings and Queens, Crosstown, Slick Chick, etc. – Melody is probably a better player. I’ll have to let Melody represent all that I like in 60’s Gottliebs and forego any realistic expectation of getting the others. But it’s a fine game, so that’s OK. Two Gottlieb EM’s: If TPA only ever gets two more Gottlieb EM’s – Melody for one of them and Centigrade 37 for the other. C37 has the four in-lanes used on many late EM’s, the oft-used bagatelle lanes on the right, and is a great player. I really like Atlantis, but only if it were in the context of lots of other Gottlieb’s (trying to maximize variety because we won’t get many EM’s). We have Big Shot and El Dorado – lots of drop targets, so we should defer to games that offer some greater variety (making Royal Flush and Atlantis candidates if more EM’s were made). I suppose one could argue that the next GTB EM should be C37, and then Melody. C37 may not be everyone’s first choice, but hopefully in everyone’s top five or so, and provides good play variety to the EM’s we already have and represents many aspects of the best of Gottlieb 70’s pinball. So C37 might be the best choice for the next Gottlieb EM, though I think a C37/Melody would be perfect – and be a good sample of GTB EM’s even if we never got another one. After that, the next wave of games that make the most sense based on variety and popularity would be some combination of: Surf Champ, Fast Draw, Royal Flush. After that, maybe Atlantis or Spirit of 76 could be worked in (or Buccaneer). I still have my personal preferences, but I think that a better concensus on what the next Gottlieb EM's should be (and after that) might be more likely to produce a TPA EM sooner rather than later. Now pushing the campaign for C37/Melody. [/QUOTE]
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