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<blockquote data-quote="chris" data-source="post: 481" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>I find some of the statements here questionable at best. Play a game of TOTAN on TPA, then watch this video here: <a href="http://pinball.org/videos/gameplay-videos/tales-of-the-arabian-nights/" target="_blank">http://pinball.org/videos/gameplay-videos/tales-of-the-arabian-nights/</a>.</p><p></p><p>TOTAN on TPA is ridiculously bouncy and chaotic. The real game is much tighter. The ball in TPA clearly has nearly 0 weight to it. Try to do a drop catch and the ball will bounce halfway up the table. Try to do the bounce pass and the ball literally bounces like 20 times. This just isn't accurate at all. It has nothing to do with the red rubber either, as Ripley has the same but the ball definitely has more weight to it. Ripley is easily the most accurate of them all. Pinball FX 2 is much much more accurate than TPA. I just don't see it as debatable. </p><p></p><p>I enjoy TPA a lot, but i'm not going to pretend the physics are impressive. The ball rolls at nearly the same speed from top to bottom. It lacks any momentum whatsoever.</p><p></p><p>And to people claiming Zen doesn't bounce enough.. that's false. Clearly you can see in the video when the ball is traveling from the top of the table to the bottom without much resistance, the ball bounces off the flipper and goes about halfway to 3/4ths of the way up the bottom bumpers, just like in Zen. It never goes halfway up the table like in TPA. You can watch the video I posted and skip to 18:25-18:31 to see exactly what I'm talking about.</p><p></p><p>The proof is in the pudding. Real pinball is just no where near as bouncy as it is in this game. You cannot pull off half the moves in it that you can with real pinball or Pinball FX or even Zen. This isn't debatable, it's a fact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chris, post: 481, member: 5"] I find some of the statements here questionable at best. Play a game of TOTAN on TPA, then watch this video here: [url]http://pinball.org/videos/gameplay-videos/tales-of-the-arabian-nights/[/url]. TOTAN on TPA is ridiculously bouncy and chaotic. The real game is much tighter. The ball in TPA clearly has nearly 0 weight to it. Try to do a drop catch and the ball will bounce halfway up the table. Try to do the bounce pass and the ball literally bounces like 20 times. This just isn't accurate at all. It has nothing to do with the red rubber either, as Ripley has the same but the ball definitely has more weight to it. Ripley is easily the most accurate of them all. Pinball FX 2 is much much more accurate than TPA. I just don't see it as debatable. I enjoy TPA a lot, but i'm not going to pretend the physics are impressive. The ball rolls at nearly the same speed from top to bottom. It lacks any momentum whatsoever. And to people claiming Zen doesn't bounce enough.. that's false. Clearly you can see in the video when the ball is traveling from the top of the table to the bottom without much resistance, the ball bounces off the flipper and goes about halfway to 3/4ths of the way up the bottom bumpers, just like in Zen. It never goes halfway up the table like in TPA. You can watch the video I posted and skip to 18:25-18:31 to see exactly what I'm talking about. The proof is in the pudding. Real pinball is just no where near as bouncy as it is in this game. You cannot pull off half the moves in it that you can with real pinball or Pinball FX or even Zen. This isn't debatable, it's a fact. [/QUOTE]
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