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<blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 285860" data-attributes="member: 134"><p>There's a lot of confusing choices of words Zen has chosen, I agree.</p><p></p><p>It started in FX3 before Williams was a thing, when they introduced 'Classic Single Player'. What this was denoting was the difference of 'Single Player' having the ability to have boosts and wizard bonus upgrades while playing, versus 'Classic' which was regular play like we saw in FX2. In truth that should have been 'Single Player' and the new boost enhanced version should have been something along the lines of 'Single Player Plus' or something. </p><p></p><p><em>It's sorta like how it used to be Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi, all the way up until the prequels came out. For 20 years nobody called Star Wars 'A New Hope', and suddenly there was this influx of younger viewers who not only called it that, but more often referred to it as Episode 4! And you can't even say "the first Star Wars" because then people assume you're talking about Phantom Menace, so now we have to say things like "original trilogy" and stuff. Gah! (end rant)</em></p><p></p><p>So whatever, Zen made the mistake of making the new mode sound like the original mode by naming it a very normal 'Single Player' and listing it first, while relegating the original mode with a weird nomenclature, ensuring most new players would only be playing the new version.</p><p></p><p>Then comes Williams.</p><p></p><p>Nothing about 'Classic Single Player' screams "hey, here's where the new real life physics are" and so you had a large group of people complaining about the unrealistic physics because they couldn't be bothered to scroll down to 'Classic', something they may have never looked at with any of the Zen originals either. And then to make matters worse you have 'Arcade' and 'Tournament' to choose from. </p><p></p><p>I get that Zen was trying to say "like how you know it from the arcade", but we in the gaming world all know that 'arcade' typically means more forgiving settings, especially in driving games. So where Gran Turismo was more of a sim, Ridge Racer had 'arcade' physics that were purely meant for having fun with, like what you found in a coin-op cabinet. 'Tournament' was indeed the right choice though, as this is a recognized setting in the pinball world on real tables, and everybody know what it means. Zen has said they modeled it after PAPA settings, and I suppose they could have named it that or IFPA, but that's a bit hardcore for the casual pinballer to know what those acronyms even stand for. </p><p></p><p>Zen's initial naming mistake is now compounded and becomes an even bigger mistake for Williams, but once you get over the initial WTF of it, all is well again. Or at least until you download the Williams Pinball app.</p><p></p><p>Why Zen didn't continue with the exact same naming standards they'd established for FX3 is beyond me. In one sense, I suppose they were now fixing the prior mistake as Pro Physics does indeed imply more difficult, but then you have Pro Difficulty which confuses what that even is compared to Pro Physics! Call it 'Real Physics' and use 'Tournament' once more, clears everything up. I'm fine with 'enhanced' for the visual reference as it's a bit better than my calling it 'Zen mode' for months on the podcast, but how 'bout carrying that term over to FX3?</p><p></p><p>I know that Zen wants to eventually have an FX3 for mobile with their original tables, utilizing the new graphics and physics updates they did for those, as well as having all the community features that are in the PC and console versions. It's gonna be confusing as hell if they keep changing what things are called between mobile and everything else. More than that, I'm willing to live with the terms they've chosen, just with a bit from column PC and a bit from column Mobile. </p><p></p><p>Just one more thing I wish I could have been a fly on the wall for, hearing how these things were decided in the first place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutyertrap, post: 285860, member: 134"] There's a lot of confusing choices of words Zen has chosen, I agree. It started in FX3 before Williams was a thing, when they introduced 'Classic Single Player'. What this was denoting was the difference of 'Single Player' having the ability to have boosts and wizard bonus upgrades while playing, versus 'Classic' which was regular play like we saw in FX2. In truth that should have been 'Single Player' and the new boost enhanced version should have been something along the lines of 'Single Player Plus' or something. [I]It's sorta like how it used to be Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi, all the way up until the prequels came out. For 20 years nobody called Star Wars 'A New Hope', and suddenly there was this influx of younger viewers who not only called it that, but more often referred to it as Episode 4! And you can't even say "the first Star Wars" because then people assume you're talking about Phantom Menace, so now we have to say things like "original trilogy" and stuff. Gah! (end rant)[/I] So whatever, Zen made the mistake of making the new mode sound like the original mode by naming it a very normal 'Single Player' and listing it first, while relegating the original mode with a weird nomenclature, ensuring most new players would only be playing the new version. Then comes Williams. Nothing about 'Classic Single Player' screams "hey, here's where the new real life physics are" and so you had a large group of people complaining about the unrealistic physics because they couldn't be bothered to scroll down to 'Classic', something they may have never looked at with any of the Zen originals either. And then to make matters worse you have 'Arcade' and 'Tournament' to choose from. I get that Zen was trying to say "like how you know it from the arcade", but we in the gaming world all know that 'arcade' typically means more forgiving settings, especially in driving games. So where Gran Turismo was more of a sim, Ridge Racer had 'arcade' physics that were purely meant for having fun with, like what you found in a coin-op cabinet. 'Tournament' was indeed the right choice though, as this is a recognized setting in the pinball world on real tables, and everybody know what it means. Zen has said they modeled it after PAPA settings, and I suppose they could have named it that or IFPA, but that's a bit hardcore for the casual pinballer to know what those acronyms even stand for. Zen's initial naming mistake is now compounded and becomes an even bigger mistake for Williams, but once you get over the initial WTF of it, all is well again. Or at least until you download the Williams Pinball app. Why Zen didn't continue with the exact same naming standards they'd established for FX3 is beyond me. In one sense, I suppose they were now fixing the prior mistake as Pro Physics does indeed imply more difficult, but then you have Pro Difficulty which confuses what that even is compared to Pro Physics! Call it 'Real Physics' and use 'Tournament' once more, clears everything up. I'm fine with 'enhanced' for the visual reference as it's a bit better than my calling it 'Zen mode' for months on the podcast, but how 'bout carrying that term over to FX3? I know that Zen wants to eventually have an FX3 for mobile with their original tables, utilizing the new graphics and physics updates they did for those, as well as having all the community features that are in the PC and console versions. It's gonna be confusing as hell if they keep changing what things are called between mobile and everything else. More than that, I'm willing to live with the terms they've chosen, just with a bit from column PC and a bit from column Mobile. Just one more thing I wish I could have been a fly on the wall for, hearing how these things were decided in the first place. [/QUOTE]
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