Barely more new good tebles ?

[18Phoenix]

Hello from Germany, (so sorry for my english)

am I the only one how thinks so or is the new table selection becoming more and more worse ?
In season 1+2 it was a great decision to put one good and one worse table together in a single pack.
These two seasons are awesome.

But with season 3 it becomes worse. Ok, they can't release only modern tables with DMD,
but you can say what you want, these are they good tables, aswell with a lot voice samples.

I like these season 3 tables: Fish Tales, Junk Yark, Dracula
Even the DMD tables haven't been really interesting: Black Rose has a strange old typ of music (a pain for my ears),
Who dunnit and High roller are not that goog but interesting, sound is a bit boring.
It's not better with season 4, and the 2 tables known from season 5 aren't interesting for me at all.

So I will stop buying season packs because the small number of good tables makes it much cheaper for me.

But there so many great table, what's up with these ?

Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure, The Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park,
The Simpsons Pinball Party, Congo, Tales from the Crypt, Last Action Hero,
Star Wars, Apollo 13, World Cup Soccer, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein,
and and and ...

Ok, a lot expensive licences to handle, but needed for these tables.

They can't release all 100s of tables anyway, so to keep the customers they must release better tables.
Or do they want to give us ONE awesome table per season ?
I don't think that we come to season 20 or so that we could get these jewels, do you?

 

[Locksley]

You got too specialist a standards my friend.

Of those you listed Mary S. Frankenstein is the next table. Maybe we'll get Last Action Hero, been mentioned in a podcast a loooong time ago. Congo, shouldn't be to great a problem and people are mentioning it all the time. The rest could be problematic for licensis reasons - although I hope Tales from the Crypt can be wrangled in there.

People here are clamoring for more EM's and I guess that would not go up your alley at all - a bell instead of a voice sample!!!

But you are probably making the right decision buying tables 1/1 instead of seasons if you don't care for the other tables. For myself I am just too fascinated with all aspect of pinball to miss even one release, heh.

Cheerio

 

[Xanija]

For myself I am just too fascinated with all aspect of pinball to miss even one release, heh.

I am pretty much the same: Gotta catch 'em all!

I think S3/S4 were great.

 

[David T. Melnick]

I am pretty much the same: Gotta catch 'em all!

I think S3/S4 were great.

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Share the same thought.

 

[Kolchak357]

There are basically two issues with the selection of future pins to recreate.

1) Expensive licenses and some cases where the license holder won't even talk to Farsight.
2) Just about all the highly rated unlicensed pins have already been done. I'm sure they'd love to do an Attack From Mars or Monster Bash every month, but what pin fits that description?

Your most wanted list is great, just not very realistic.

 

[wizard33]

Hello from Germany, (so sorry for my english)

These two seasons are awesome.

Or do they want to give us ONE awesome table per season ?

These are subjective comments. What do you call "awesome" ?
I find CBW "awesome" and Big Shot pretty much "boring". That's my taste. But I know a lot of people like BS and not CBW
Same for many, many other tables.
Personnally I like when FS adds a table which is not well-known.. because you can discover stuff you never saw.. etc

 

[canuck]

Still keeping hope we'll see Johnny Mnemonic and Judge Dredd.

 

[kinggo]

....and Radical.........and Special Force........and Blackwater 100.......and Fire.......and Party Animal......and......

 

[invitro]

....and Radical.........and Special Force........and Blackwater 100.......and Fire.......and Party Animal......and......

....Hardbody........and Karate Fight....and Heavy Metal Meltdown!

 

[Captain B. Zarre]

....Hardbody........and Karate Fight....and Heavy Metal Meltdown!

and Raven.

 

[p6800]

and Raven.

........Rollergames..........and Bad Cats...........and Gilligan's Island....

 

[invitro]

and Raven.

Raven isn't a Bally. (Rollergames & Bad Cats aren't either. Or Fire! But the others are.)

 

[HotHamBoy]

Still keeping hope we'll see Johnny Mnemonic and Judge Dredd.

These are two of mine as well, especially Dredd. I had a blast playing it at Logan's in Chicago and the optional multiball starter is a fun gimmick. World Cup Soccer is another great table with a well implemented theme, but I think it gets kind of worn out after awhile. Those other titles are great, except Jurassic Park. I really dont care for that table. Expensive liscense, not worth it. I recently got to play a WWF Royal Rumble, a Stargate and a Guns n Roses. Those were all fun on their weird ways.

But let's be honest, we cant have a licensed table every other month. And TPA is also intended as a digital museum. It's cool to play games like Safecracker, even if they arent going to hold my interest for very long. I think Season 1 was probably the most consistent and therefore the best all-around package, but those tables seriously need updated. CFtBL and Scared Stiff are out-right boring due to how easy they are. Recently played a Creature IRL for the first time and dear god is it difficult! I'd rather they use the money spent on licensing towards updating older tables and making them relevant again.

I think another thing to consider is the implementation. I was really excited for The Getaway to finally arrive because it's one of my all-time favorites IRL. Sadly, something was lost in translation, i dont know what it is, but i dont enjoy playing it near as much as the real thing. Contrast that with pins like White Water and STNG, which i love to play in TPA almost as much as the actual tables (although obviously any real table is better than any digital table, its a different world).

People like me, who live in areas with almost no pinball and have to travel far and wide, seem to be more appreciative of the cross-section of games than people with regular, wider access to machines.

 

[squezey]

These are two of mine as well, especially Dredd. I had a blast playing it at Logan's in Chicago and the optional multiball starter is a fun gimmick. World Cup Soccer is another great table with a well implemented theme, but I think it gets kind of worn out after awhile. Those other titles are great, except Jurassic Park. I really dont care for that table. Expensive liscense, not worth it. I recently got to play a WWF Royal Rumble, a Stargate and a Guns n Roses. Those were all fun on their weird ways.

But let's be honest, we cant have a licensed table every other month. And TPA is also intended as a digital museum. It's cool to play games like Safecracker, even if they arent going to hold my interest for very long. I think Season 1 was probably the most consistent and therefore the best all-around package, but those tables seriously need updated. CFtBL and Scared Stiff are out-right boring due to how easy they are. Recently played a Creature IRL for the first time and dear god is it difficult! I'd rather they use the money spent on licensing towards updating older tables and making them relevant again.

I think another thing to consider is the implementation. I was really excited for The Getaway to finally arrive because it's one of my all-time favorites IRL. Sadly, something was lost in translation, i dont know what it is, but i dont enjoy playing it near as much as the real thing. Contrast that with pins like White Water and STNG, which i love to play in TPA almost as much as the actual tables (although obviously any real table is better than any digital table, its a different world).

People like me, who live in areas with almost no pinball and have to travel far and wide, seem to be more appreciative of the cross-section of games than people with regular, wider access to machines.

Yeah see I don't get to play pinball and especially the machines I love to death often anymore at all. The closest place to me that has a couple of favorites of mine is sort of out of the way and I'm not down that way too often. Not mention they aren't kept up too well. There is also a mall nearby I go to that has Transformers which I enjoy but it's also broken in some areas so I never play it anymore. Seems like pinball at least around here is pretty dead sadly and it's one of my favorite things so these emulation programs are a blessing for me. But I also know that a lot of the good stuff that everyone wants developed (me included, drooling for those more modern Stern tables) costs a lot of money due to license payments or however that internally works with someone making a paid emulation program like this. It sucks because no matter how much we support these people they'll probably never have enough money from this small community to play with the big licenses and you just know the prices being offered for them (if at all) are probably so high they'll make your head spin just looking at the numbers.

 

[MagnumXL]

I'd like to see some Sega/Data East tables show up, namely Jurassic Park, Rocky & Bullwinkle, Lethal Weapon 3 and both Star Wars tables, probably in that order based on how much I played them. I only got to play Goldeneye once, but it seemed fun at the time as well.

Gottlieb's Stargate would be nice along with Cactus Jack's.

Then there's all the Capcom tables (Big Bang Bar, Pinball Magic and Breakshot are all musts). There's a whole season with just the ones I've named.

I'd like to see just about any of those over constant Williams/Bally tables. Yeah, I know those were more popular overall, but it doesn't feel representative of my 1990s arcade experiences where there were often just as many Sega/Data East games in the arcades as Bally/Williams (most '90s Gottlieb games sucked so bad I didn't care if they were there or not with only a few exceptions and just looking through the System3 list...yup those are the only two I liked and even then I could do without them; Stargate was a disappointment in that it didn't use any actors' voices, etc.; the table could have lit up gate addresses in modes, etc. on the backglass. Nope. Pretty basic. Actually, an SG-1 table might have been more interesting for modes and comic relief).

Judge Dredd is a must-have Bally still left. I also liked Dirty Harry and No Fear: Dangerous Sports. I always thought Indy was overrated, personally, but then it was hard to find one in fully working condition locally. I wouldn't mind seeing Doctor Who either come to think of it.

 

[canuck]

Doctor Who looks like fun, would also presumably be popular???

 

[EldarOfSuburbia]

Doctor Who looks like fun, would also presumably be popular???

And expensive to obtain. The BBC ain't cheap, and dealing with the likenesses of 9 actors (7 Doctors + The Master + Ace), 3 of whom are dead, is going to be tricky.

 

[pyroxian]

And expensive to obtain. The BBC ain't cheap, and dealing with the likenesses of 9 actors (7 Doctors + The Master + Ace), 3 of whom are dead, is going to be tricky.

Plus you might have to deal with the estate of Terry Nation for the rights to the Daleks.

 

[EldarOfSuburbia]

Plus you might have to deal with the estate of Terry Nation for the rights to the Daleks.

Don't go there .... (the BBC had enough trouble with that as it is - and it's their show! - so I've no idea how FS would manage it).

 

[invitro]

Doctor Who looks like fun, would also presumably be popular???

I played Dr. Who a lot in the 1990's, and was even a little obsessed with it for a short time. It's super-fun, and pretty weird too -- strange rules, sounds, dots, and some strange shots. The video mode is super-important, though IIRC it's not trivial to light it. This may be a turn-off to players at a certain high skill level. I became pretty good at it and scored >2B regularly, but I don't think I ever figured out the big jackpots in multiball.

It has zero chance of coming to TPA, unless Stern decides to make a new Dr. Who table and pays for the license to this one, too.